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Reddit API Pricing Would Cost Apollo Developer $20M per Year

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Comments moved to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36141083, which was posted earlier and has the original source.

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Existing active discussion unfolding:

Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing. Bad news for third-party apps

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36141083 (152 comments)

Somehow this is no longer on the frontpage ..

@dang I refresh HN way too often and didn't even see this - 240 points, 152 comments, and it's on page 3 in position 81. What's up/can we merge all these threads?

Edit: in particular asking because it's not visibly flagged

I'll merge the threads but in the future if you want to get this information to us please use hn@ycombinator.com. "@dang" is a no-op and I only saw your comment by accident.

Thanks, will do in the future!

Just curious, how’d that submission wind up so far downranked?

It set off the flamewar detector a.k.a. the overheated discussion detector. Surprising as that may be for a reddit thread.

I get to repeat my joke since if the earlier explanation wasn't seen, the joke wasn't seen either.

Haha, and I appreciate you did.

TIL. I see so much "@dang" in HN threads I assumed it actually did something.

Literally saw that post and it was gone seconds later. Kind of suspicious considering Reddit was a YC company.

I see your point but that was 18 years ago. I wonder if they still have shares left

Well, they are about to IPO soon so I wouldn't rule out conflict of interests. I saw the link, clicked to read the Reddit post, when I came back, the link is gone. I had to search to find it and it had nearly 300 points. I see no reason to have flagged it since Christain and Apollo have done no wrong. He was telling his users that Reddit is effectively killing Apollo and he was allowed to disclose it.

Such suspicions will be evergreen (everblack?) for as long as HN exists but no, we don't moderate HN that way. Lots of past explanation here: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu....

I know it's no fun, but please try to remember that the overwhelming majority of the time, the explanations for these things are really boring and standard. In this case the thread set off the flamewar detector.

Nah, your "flame war detector" validates it. Am I expected to believe a site that looks a lot like Craigslist and has no extra features like email, favorites, etc. has the ability and competence to properly code a flame war detector?

Or is it more likely there is a basic filter that blocks conversations against the interests of said party? Forums are transparent, when threads are locked /deleted / moderated it is egregiously obvious and publicly visible. HN operates Gestapo style and then tries to gaslight you that nothing happened.

The flamewar detector is just a simple bit of code that looks for threads which have many comments but not so many upvotes. It's far from perfect but it works well enough, especially because it sends us an email each time it demotes a thread, and we review those emails and correct the cases it gets wrong.

More to the point, it's completely neutral with respect to the content of an article or the comments.

I believe there are a number of domains that have a higher "gravity" as they tend to lead to unconstructive "flamey" threads. I wouldn't be surprised if Reddit is one of them.

The “active” page has all the juicy stuff - https://news.ycombinator.com/active

  Juan was taught from out the best edition,
       Expurgated by learnéd men, who place
  Judiciously, from out the schoolboy's vision,
       The grosser parts; but, fearful to deface
  Too much their modest bard by this omission,
       And pitying sore his mutilated case,
  They only add them all in an appendix,
  Which saves, in fact, the trouble of an index.

It set off the flamewar detector. Surprising as that may be for a reddit thread!

I'll turn that off and merge the threads momentarily.

Thank you!

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