Now do "They can't make you sit in secondary area/room for two hours without looking at you."
Now do "They can't make you sit in secondary area/room for two hours without looking at you."
That's because it is lol.
Remember this incident? Fun stuff.
https://web.archive.org/web/20230421210739/https://www.theat...
"A NASA Engineer Was Required to Unlock His Phone at the Border
A U.S.-born scientist was detained at the Houston airport until he gave customs agents the passcode to his work-issued device."
Foreigners i understand... either give the passcode or go back home... but local citizens?
(i've argued more than once at my countries border, and there's not much that they can do)
The law is irrelevant when LEOs can side-step it whenever they want.
The thing they can do that I find problematic is stop all traffic at a checkpoint and ask immigration-related questions without any suspicion whatsoever. This is conceptually similar to a DUI checkpoint, and I think the courts are wrong to allow either in the USA because they constitute a detention not based on reasonable, individualized suspicion of a crime.
What happens is the search is tossed out in court, which you have the option of federally or state.
> The federal government defines a “reasonable distance” as 100 air miles from any external boundary of the U.S. So, combining this federal regulation and the federal law regarding warrantless vehicle searches, CBP claims authority to board a bus or train without a warrant anywhere within this 100-mile zone. Two-thirds of the U.S. population, or about 200 million people, reside within this expanded border region, according to the 2010 census. Most of the 10 largest cities in the U.S., such as New York City, Los Angeles, and Chicago, fall in this region. Some states, like Florida, lie entirely within this border band so their entire populations are impacted.
Southern end of City of Los Angeles is about 105 air miles from the land border.
And I think you mean LA County, The city is around 120 miles. Regarding the county, Long Beach isn’t really LA - nobody from Long Beach would say they’re from LA.
City of Los Angeles includes the port area near Long Beach, and the 110 freeway corridor leading there. Yes, it's a really weird shape.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Los+Angeles,+CA/@34.020161...
Didn't realize City of LA wanted to own the port so much, interesting.
Edit: I just read that 100 miles “inland”, but even that’s absurd, never knew that.
https://www.lexisnexis.com/community/casebrief/p/casebrief-u...
I'm American. I've always liked this way of describing things that we don't like. It somehow (to me) implies something. Maybe I don't know what that is, but it seems mostly anti-bad.
If anyone wants to hate on me, I think that HuAC was tragically misrepresented to the public, and the Hollywood blacklists should have been longer and wider. Sorry, but that's how I feel about it. Many of the jokers that ended up there were acting very irresponsibly and as if there were no consequences for their actions. The actions being a hidden alignment with an internationalist organization actively seeking to undermine the USA from within. (Something we can accomplish without any outside help.)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Border_Patrol_...
If you check this in the search bar at the bottom of the page you'll see this has come up a bunch on HN (it's a lurid and exciting notion to toss around!) and there are SCOTUS cites in the results.
It is not my contention that CBP isn't abusing the law. I'm sure they are. Many CBP immigration stops apprehend no or single-digit unlawful immigrants while arresting dozens and dozens of citizens for things like suspected drug offenses. My contention --- well, not really mine so much as that of the Supreme Court and of law review articles about this case law --- is that what they're doing is plainly unlawful.
What is plainly the case is that many people believe that the law dictates that CBP can warrantlessly search citizens anywhere within 100 miles of the border (that border including the shores of all the Great Lakes). The law does not say that, the Supreme Court has repeatedly said that CBP can't do that, and people should stop repeating the claim that they can, because that claim empowers the CBP, which is already prone to abusing its authority.
But the bogus claim is head-turning, and presumably generates a lot of money for ACLU, because it's alarming and wrong-seeming (well, wrong, period, but...).
"The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 established that a "reasonable distance" of the border would extend "100-air miles" around the outline of the country. "
Update: addl reference [3]
[1] https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/06/13/what-is-usa-border-en...
[2] https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/fedreg/fr02...
[3] https://ballsandstrikes.org/legal-culture/border-patrol-100-...
"This longstanding recognition that searches at our borders without probable cause and without a warrant are nonetheless "reasonable" has a history as old as the Fourth Amendment itself."