OpenAI Outage
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Ie:
No SLA: $1 per 1000 requests.
With SLA: $2 per 1000 requests. For every minute of downtime, we refund 50% of your daily bill.
Obviously they are free to design their systems to make SLA'd requests have priority when there is a capacity crunch or service issues, and that is really what those customers are paying for.
Let the people who have money to pay for a very slightly better service give you more money.
I don't have any examples at hand but I've heard about an insurance offer tied to SLAs for external products.
People are going to use OpenAI if it's good. Nobody really cares about SLA if the product is incredible.
[1] https://aws.amazon.com/legal/service-level-agreements/?aws-s...
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cognitive-services/o...
Same model availability as well.
then they'll refund you 2c for the 8 seconds they say they were down for
And thas is a great example of companies run by marketing ot finance people are untrustworthy.
They'll make decisions on the narrow interests of short-term gain or loss-avoidance without consideration of building inherently great products and services and an organization you can trust.
In this example the Status page always looks good, and maybe isn't "technically" dishonest, but it is fundamentally dishonest and in reality, useless.
It makes sense to use these tools, but we need to remember that we revert back to our human ability level when they are offline. We should still invest in our own human skills, and not assume that these tools will always be available. There will be minor outages like these, and in the case of cyber attacks, war or other major disruptions, they could be offline for longer periods of time.
Also, don't outsource your thinking to AI or the media (mainstream & social)
We can see the impact of outsourcing thinking in modernity, via the simplicity of likes and retweets.
While ChatGPT can be a helpful tool, the issue is that many will substitute rather than augment. It is a giant language averaging machine, which will bring many people up, but bring the other half down, though not quite because the upper echelons will know better than to parrot the parrot.
Summarizing a text will remove the nuance of meaning captured by the authors' words.
Generating words will make your writing blasé.
Do you think ChatGPT can converse like this?
Consequently, the notion that ChatGPT could 'bring down' the more skilled among us may warrant further scrutiny. Isn't it possible that the 'upper echelons' might find novel ways to employ this tool, enhancing rather than undermining their capabilities?
Similarly, while summarization can be a blunt instrument, stripping away nuance, it can also be a scalpel, cutting through verbosity to deliver clear, concise communication. What if ChatGPT could serve as a tutor, teaching us the art of brevity?
The generated words may risk becoming 'blasé', as you eloquently put it, but again, isn't it contingent on how it's used? Can we not find ways to ensure our individual voice still shines through?
So, while I understand and respect your concerns, I posit that our apprehensions should not eclipse the potential that tools like ChatGPT offer us. It might not just be a 'parrot' – but a catalyst for the evolution of human communication.
Though I'm hoping you didn't suspect it, I should warn you this comment was written by you know what (who?).
If ChatGPT did write this, as you allude to, then you didn't check your work. These counter arguments are distracted and irrelevant at times...
> Rather than being a monolithic linguistic equalizer
This has very different meaning than "language averager", from words to model (during training), vs linguistic equalizer, model to words (after training)
> it could be seen as a tool, a canvas with a wide spectrum of applications.
Yes, ofc, but we are talking about writing specificly, this is trending towards whataboutism.
> Sure, some may choose to use it as a crutch, diluting their creativity, yet others might harness it as a springboard, leveraging it to explore new ideas and articulate them in ways they might not have otherwise.
This is the point, not contrary to what has been said. The issue is with the crutch users. We know many people do this, yet this topic is barely mentioned, let alone addressed as the core of the discussion.
> ... the notion that ChatGPT could 'bring down' the more skilled among us ... Isn't it possible that the 'upper echelons' might find novel ways...
That is what I said
> but again, isn't it contingent on how it's used?
again, this is what I said, not reflecting this shows how limited this reply is in debate and argumentation
> What if ChatGPT could serve as a tutor, teaching us the art of brevity?
More whataboutism, irrelevant to the more focused discussion at hand
> So, while I understand and respect your concerns, I posit that our apprehensions should not eclipse the potential that tools like ChatGPT offer us. It might not just be a 'parrot' – but a catalyst for the evolution of human communication.
Sam might disagree here... though I do not completely. Why did it switch to "our" all of the sudden?
Not sure where I said it, but I have put forth the idea that it could, _could_, improve communication for many, by acting as a filter or editor. Again the issue at hand is that _many_ will not use it as a tool but as a replacement, there are many lazy people who do not want to write and will subsequently not critically read the output...
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>> the issue is that many will substitute rather than augment
This is the core statement of my argument, "many" has been interpreted as something more, not partial. That it is lost within the reply is not surprising... a distracted and largely irrelevant word soup
In summary, this is the low quality writing one might come to expect from ChatGPT primary output, assuming the allusion is correctly interpreted... be clear if you use it
And sibling comments show that lack of critical reading and fawning for anything ChatGPT, whether it was or was not, people are assuming so based on your last ambiguous sentence.
Seen a few "as a large language model" reviews on Amazon a few months back; now the search results are for T-shirts with that phrase printed on them, and I don't know if that's because people are buying them or because an unrelated bot generates new T-shirts every time it notices a new catchphrase.
I feel like I spend more time trying to coax it into staying focused than anything else. Not where I want to spend my time and effort tbh
"Autocomplete on steroids" has always felt to me like it needlessly diminished how good it is, but in this aspect I'd say it's an important and relevant part of the behaviour.
If you are using it for marketing copy, that’s one thing. I’m using it to think through some very hard topics — and my kid is trying to learn how photosynthesis works atm.
When I let GPT-4 write text for me (parts of e-mails or documentation), I rely on my own writing skills to rate GPT-4's output. The problem I'm solving isn't "I can't write this". I can. It just requires putting in effort I'd rather avoid, and it's significantly easier to criticize, edit or get inspired from existing text, than to come up with your own from scratch.
People who decide to rely on LLMs instead of learning to write will face many problems, such as not being able to express what the LLM should write, and not being able to quickly evaluate if the output is any good.
Of course, if we keep the current rate of progress, few years from now the world will be so different that it's hard to guess how communication will look like. Like, I can imagine GPT-6 or GPT-10 being able to write perfect text based on contextual awareness and me making a few grunts - but if this becomes ubiquitous, we'll have bots writing texts for other bots to translate back into grunts, and... it's really difficult to tell what happens then.
I think what they will really lose is the perseverance that it takes to write, and various other skills that are made possible by being a skilled writer. They may gain other skills along the way, of course. But it's a big unknown.
However, when you're using ChatGPT to write things for you, you are in a different position. First of all, you're not the audience - you're the editor. This will make your determinations different, as you're re-evaluating a work you're iterating on, and core points of which you're already familiar with. The same applies to writing on your own (where you're both the writer and the editor for yourself), but writing forces you to focus much more on the text and thoughts behind it, which I believe teaches you to make more nuanced determinations, with much greater fidelity.
Secondly, when you're writing - especially if you bother to enlist the help of an LLM - you usually have a specific goal in mind. Writing a love letter, or an advert, or a business e-mail, or a formal request, etc. requires you to think not just in terms of how it "feels" to you in generic sense of entertainment or knowledge transfer value. You need to put some actual thought into the tone, structure and the wording. Writing, again, forces you to do that.
I can get away with letting GPT-4 write half the text in my correspondence at work (INB4 yes, I have temporary access to company-approved model instance on Azure), because I've written such text myself so many times that I know exactly whether or not GPT-4 is doing a good job (I usually end up having it to do two or three variants, and then manually mix sentences or phrases from each). Even with that experience, I still consider it to be a tool for overcoming mental blocks associated with context switching - I wouldn't dare just having it both generate and send e-mails for me. People who never got the experience of writing specialized correspondence, I just don't think they'd be able to tell if the output of an LLM is actually suitable for the goal one wants to achieve.
I'd be surprised if we have solar-powered AI assistants in my lifetime, in the way that we have solar-powered calculators.
In a strange coincidence I've recently been doing some tests with small 10 W solar panels and with two or three of those plus an Nvidia Xavier (20 W TDP) one could actually run a solar powered LLM right now with only about as much solar as fits on a person's back (though only the smaller 13B versions).
Give it a few years and we'll have them integrated into smartphones. So yes, you will in fact always have an LLM in your pocket just like the ol' calculator excuse.
I think we could switch back fairly quickly if we needed to do so.
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I suggest there are more foundational reasons why it'd be better to learn to write, and that the whole tech world will be AI soon enough and we won't have to depend on OpenAI for this 'feature'.
In fact, using AI should probably be a bit more like 'spellcheck', if we're asking AI to write more than that, it's tantamount to filler.
'Writing' is a 'core' civilization skill, it's basic communication.
The grading interface might look similar, but who's gonna use word to write a doc when the real job is coming up with the right prompts to make an ai output the ideas you're trying to communicate?
Right now, where you say makes sense in the way candles used to make sense; but that's only because the good LLMs have to run on servers — there are lesser downloadable language models that run on just about anything, including phones and Raspberry Pi[0], and it's almost certain that (if we don't all die and/or play a game of Global Thermonuclear War etc.) it'll soon be exactly like having a calculator outage.
And if it's on a Pi, a solar powered calculator outage at that.
[0] What is the plural of Pi? Pis, Pies, Πs, or something else? Regardless: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/03/you-c...
I know it seems hard to imagine now but bad shit will happen and why but have a few $1 candles in a survival kit in your house ? Seems like a no brainer.
Candles are less hands-free than torches because they are a fire hazard when unattended; also, you can turn an iPhone light on or off with "hey Siri torch on" etc., unlike a candle where you need to find both it and the matches first before you get started, instead of simply vocalising in the darkness to summon forth illumination like a wizard.
In fact, that fire hazard thing makes candles more likely to be the cause of rather than the solution to any serious problems I might face.
I cannot tell you how many LED camp lights I have that have broken or batteries that have failed, including LED Lenser which apparently are a quality brand. Randomly I've been lucky and some have lasted a long time, but that's been rare.
In fact, that fire hazard thing makes candles more likely to be the cause of rather than the solution to any serious problems I might face.
Use a candle lantern [1] makes the candle quite hands free and much safer, they're invaluable. They also sell a citronella candle so it can double for keeping the bugs away as well as lighting.
There's no way I'm skipping on the candles for any reason at all. Of course I have LED head torches but not having candles seems kind of silly, I just have both.
What brand of lanterns do you use?
[1] https://www.amazon.com/UCO-Original-Lantern-Candles-Storage/...
An overkill lantern that would serve anyone well could be this one: https://www.amazon.com/Camping-Lantern-Rehargeable-Runtime-f... designed by budgetlightforum.com
Or if you want to search for lanterns and flashlights: http://flashlights.parametrek.com/
How do we reconcile our differences here? :) It's just something that has happened to me.
I also do a lot of camping in sub zero temperatures, lithium ion is pretty hopeless when it gets cold. Lot of managing the batteries, keeping them in your clothes etc.
That's probably the key difference. I never camp in less than a comfortable summer.
Which means you both regularly test/use the flashlights, and have an overall maintenance discipline around them that's so habituated that you're probably not consciously aware of it. For most people, a flashlight would be something that you may have one or two of, stored in a drawer somewhere... maybe, since last you saw one of them was 2 years ago. Batteries are probably long dead already, and you might not have spares.
Candles win by price and maintenance simplicity. They are cheap enough that you may have dozens of them (some for emergency in your emergency pack, some for romantic evening in the kitchen, a few buried in random drawers around the house, a few more for... what follows the romantic evening, etc.), and when you find some, they're pretty much guaranteed to work. As a bonus, candles come with a clear, visual indicator of remaining "charge" - something most flashlights don't have.
You're describing my LED situation here :)
(Well, except for romance; LEDs are too stark and cold, and I'm no longer a goth).
Seriously, I hate warm lights. They're gloomy and make me spend 90% of my energy fighting to stay awake. I don't get why people are so fond of them (and why they're always keeping their places way underlit). I must be just wired differently.
Curious.
For me the number of failures has been "zero" regardless of make, model, or shop.
Matches, on the other hand, have often failed to light when struck, or snapped, or gone out before reaching a (decorative, indoor) candle.
Likewise when using lighters for camp fires or barbecues, even with assistance from lighter fluid it takes a lot of goes and the ignition source often fails and a replacement has to be found.
> What brand of lanterns do you use?
Lantern? As in for fire, not an alternative name for a torch? If so, I don't use them.
If that does mean torch, then I barely notice the brands; some are the ones built into seemingly every USB battery, some are from EuroShop[0] (the second because the first they sold me was too bright), there's a bike light I bought a decade ago but have not taken out of storage in the last 5 years since moving country and that thing is brighter than some room main lights, there's a USB powered camping LED somewhere shaped like a normal lightbulb that I got from I don't remember where, but I don't know if I brought it with me or left it in the UK because it was too cheap to care.
I used to use the EuroShop lights as bedside lights because of the way the bedroom is wired, but now there's a Home Pod and smart bulbs I don't even need that.
None of them failed, ever.
Batteries have been drained, but have always been predictable in that regard and are rechargeable, and longer lasting, and vastly brighter, per unit of mass/volume than candles.
[0] Not the trade fair of the same name, a shop where everything cost one Euro (at the time, but inflation means no longer): https://euroshop-online.de/filiale/search/index/sSearch/led+...
Maye I'm emitting some electromagnetic energy that damages the circuit boards? ha
But batteries lose charge over time, whereas candles retain their 'charge' indefinitely. We have some candles for that reason.
I was doing online dating for a long time, as I'm a shy guy, but I realized that it became so different from real life (and connections that I make there are so fake because everybody's incentivized to lie), that I need to stop using internet for socializing.
Similar offline risk goes for all tech: navigation, generating energy, finding food & water.
And as others have noted, like other personal tools, ai will become more portable and efficient (see progress on self hosted, minimal, efficiently trained models like Vicuna that are 92% parity with OpenAI fancy model)
I can watch endless hours of people doing technically obsolete activities on YouTube right now.
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10 ~Chopper~ The Future
It looks like someone forgot to update their status page.
I'm sure they'll get there.
Checkout Gaunaco - it's absolutely incredibly good, and quite easy to get running at home with a simple Dockerfile.
what?! do we look like uncivilized coders to you? /s
You can easily find helpful coding resources like Stackoverflow, blogs, and forums through a simple Google search. Relying solely on one source is not advisable, I think. Cloudflare, AWS, and now OpenAI are all central clouds. This is why we need independent forums, StackOverflow, blogs, etc. Otherwise, it is yet another monopoly. Anyway, it's always important to explore multiple options for accurate information. At least, that is how I do it. YMMV.
I still use web search frequently to find project homepages, official and up-to-date documentation, news and announcements, discussion (hearing people's stories of their experiences with a product is a lot better than ChatGPT's noncommittal and abstract pros/cons), searching for videos/images, etc.
Describe all failure modes you failed to see and describe in detail how these services failed, do not make up or lie, but describe what failed in sequence and list the services affected by each process which failed due to the cascade and also be as technically detailed as possible with links to specific documentation on how to handle or fix each failure
> Hmm...something seems to have gone wrong.
Maybe an infrastructure thing?