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The DA was replaced with someone vocally pro-police. How come we haven't seen a reduction in crime?

1. What the hell does "vocally pro-police" even mean? How is DA Jenkins any more pro-police than DA Gascon (who used to be a cop himself)?

2. Most of the regulations which make the criminal justice system in California (and the United States) ineffectual come from state regulations and common law precedent. For example, the court system deemed that bail must be offered in almost all situations (even for high risk defendants) and be affordable, and an attempt to revise this judgment to allow DAs to detain repeat violent offenders was defeated by the unholy alliance of bail bond companies and the ACLU.

I have literally not seen a single conference she has held without being flanked by sfpd officers. a key tenet of her campaign was rebuilding the relationship between the DA and sfpd. She supported every sfpd budget increase under her tenure and dropped charges on like the second sfpd cop to ever be charged by the city. her first major political move post appointment was backing a mayor/sfpd proposal to increase surveillance.

not saying if this is good or bad, and i don't know enough about the bail system to have an opinion, but its bad faith to say that she is not pro police, or at least pro sf police

This is a really random set of evidence for a relatively strong claim. For example, “the DA and police should be able to work together” is not radical pro-cop propaganda. It’s a fact of how the criminal justice system works. Similarly, dropping charges against a police officer for shooting a suspect who was actively attacking him is not radical; no mainstream advocacy org opposed the charging decision. The press conference claim is almost bizarre: I was at a walkthrough Jenkins did in the Castro with the district supervisor and merchant association where there was little if no police presence. In any case, what does that have to do with policy?

I didn’t say it was “bad faith” to say Jenkins is pro-police, I asked for a definition. As your response suggests, there isn’t much evidence to suggest Jenkins is particularly pro-police. She’s about as pro-police as every other DA besides Boudin who’s held office in San Francisco, a city which is historically the least pro-police in the entire country.

If the police helped her campaign, I would consider that strong evidence that they prefer her methods, ideas, and initiatives. That wasn't some offhand thing, that was a conscious choice for everyone involved.

If a group supports a candidate, that does not make the candidate “vocally pro-group.”

In addition, SFPD is a government department. It does not take positions in elections. Please be specific when alleging a conspiracy.

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