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Is there anything to even be remotely positive about with regards to climate change? It's getting very depressing.

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Plants will grow more easily... due to increased temperature and CO2, just like in a greenhouse

This in the long run will reverse the climate change, so after we go extinct, the remaining species will thrive :)

Not necessarily: https://newatlas.com/environment/trees-atmospheric-co2-effec...

There is, but it's not welcome to speak of here. Just keep in mind that modelling weather is extremely difficult to do, and this worsens as timescales get larger. Dovetailing with that, the popular science has a long history of failed predictions.

Pretend that long term net energy increases aren't happening because modelling short term turbulent fluctuations is hard, got it. That is a big positive.

>> There is, but it's not welcome to speak of here.

I mean, if your reason for optimism is "science has a long history of failed predictions" then yes, that kind of shit will not be looked upon kindly on this forum.

If you can invest now in the right real estate - say, 70 or so meters above sea level on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellesmere_Island - that might turn out very positively for you.

Otherwise not so much.

Energy required to melt all this ice is so huge it’ll take a looooong while.

I know people don’t want to hear about it, but here’s a review of the various satellite temperature measurements:

https://reason.com/2023/04/27/global-warming-trend-is-only-o...

If you don’t like the source, click through to the original data sources.

I don't think this is what you want to hear but in some places, warmer climate is just going to be more pleasant. Although a changing climate brings surprises and challenges of adapting to most.

This is one of the most flawed arguments that get made. I’ve been to many places in North America and Europe. Everywhere you go, direct sunlight above 65F is nearly unbearable. Air temperature is one thing, but we are super heating the entire air column between you and the outer atmosphere. Places that used to be pleasant with lots of sunshine like the SFs East Bay are now searing hot in direct sun. Yes, Maybe Quebec is more pleasant than it used to be, but it will be uncomfortable most of the summer in 5 or 10 years. Humans will certainly migrate North but Eventually we will just run out of latitude. Climate Change isn’t linear. Each year will be getting hotter faster than it did the year before. We’re toast.

Well, this is why it's boring to speculate about potential upsides because people want to bring in the downsides again. I'm not trying to argue for anything, but I think it will in fact be more pleasant to live in some places. That's not an argument that climate change is a good thing, but the question was asked, is there any upside.

You’ll probably be dead before the worst of it so it’s not all bad.

In fairness this statement can also be true if you die from climate-induced causes....

Sure but since we're using the word "probably" here...

He (most probable pronoun) probably has kid(s) as well.

It'll drive us towards advancements in geoengineering.

Great new business opportunities opening up in the mobile crematoriums market.

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