They both compile slowly because they have similarly complicated type systems. What do you use in Rust that Swift doesn’t yet provide?
I sure hope the author learned the right lesson from the failure that is Swift and Mojo turns out to be better. I do not want a language with a complicated type system and long compile times. I want a 'good enough' type system and fast compile times.
Unless I'm thinking of something different, doesn't OCaml have type inference on polymorphic types and fast(ish?) compile times?
I was under the impression that the breakdown of causes for Rust projects compiling slowly is very project-dependent as well. From what I can remember common culprits were monomorphization and/or LLVM, though I'm not sure if that has changed recently.
Typically, there are many type system features that break this property and where OCaml and Haskell requires type annotations (for instance polymorphic functions that takes polymorphic functions as arguments and use them in a polymorphic way).
As a consequence, typechecking for OCaml programs tend to take from 10% to 60% of the whole compilation time for typical programs. However, for OCaml programs that make heavy use of GADTs typechecking can dominate the compilation time (probably due to the exhaustiveness check but I have yet to empirically check that).
Infamously, Swift made the choice to introduce a typechecking algorithm with an exponential complexity in the size of expression (to support function overloading and literals) even for simple types.
Does the up to 60% figure include programs that make heavy use of GADTs, or are those even worse in terms of the proportion of compilation time spent type checking?
I had no idea Swift's type checking algorithm is exponential. How easy is it to run into those conditions?
I have no first-hand experience with Swift but the previous discussion at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12108876 and the description of the problematic algorithm seems to indicate that numerical or mathematical code can run quite easily into the issue.
However, I must add that type inference algorithms being exponential in the source code size is nothing new: OCaml and Haskell inference are also exponential in the source code size. But that is because the size of types can be exponential in the source code size. Moreover, type inference complexity in OCaml and Haskell is linear in the size of types. And since in practice, no one ever uses exponentially growing types, type inference stays well behaved.
The specific issue with Swift is really more that even for simple result types, the inference may still have to do an exponential amount of guess work.
Though Swift concurrency is mostly about "concurrency" not "parallelism", which is the one that has data races.