Dr. Garry Nolan Talks at Salt Conference NYC

I'm curious do you believe that extraterrestrial intelligence has visited planet Earth I think you can go a step further it hasn't just visited it's been here a long time and it's still here uh and it has a basically um you know people talk about the wow signal looking for extraterrestrial intelligence the wow signal is that people see it on an almost regular basis that's the communication that's already here and and that statement seems so incredible that it it's tough to believe right people hear that and maybe a lot of people here hear that and they don't believe it and so I'm curious if you had to assign a probability to that statement that you believe extraterrestrial intelligence has visited visited this planet what probability would you assign a hundred percent and that's not just my opinion I mean look um the National Defense appropriation Act passed last year signed by by Biden in uh December 30 pages of that is the establishment of an unidentified aerial phenomenon office the establishments of looking into the harm that's happened to an even number of the individuals going back to 1945 and looking at the disinformation and misinformation that has been uh basically articulated over the decades 12 U.S senators have signed on to a document that basically says we want the information the establishment of an office arrow in the Department of Defense has 25 people working in it right now and what's their what's their goal collecting the information across all over the uh all of the U.S department of intelligence sorry Department of Defense intelligence offices and Coalition of that into a uniform format for the very first time and provision of that then to Congress the creation of a whistleblowers program specifically that allows people from the from within who I'm going to say this who've been working on the reverse engineering programs reverse engineering of objects so that they can come in and break their Oaths but it's specifically just to talk to Congress and give that information in classified settings and that the most recent one that happened was just last weekend and it created quite a hornet's nest in Washington and and so let's just create kind of like a logical framework here so we started the top we say now there's 100 probability that extraterrestrial intelligence has visited Earth now we have to go down to why that statement may be true why you believe that statement is true what is the evidence and I think perhaps we all may have to read between the lines a little bit here you may not maybe divulge everything but in your opinion what do you believe to be the most compelling evidence to support that statement well I think the most compelling evidence is you just need to look at what your government is doing right now about it I mean just go and look at the number of uh politicians and this is interesting on both sides of the aisle who have come together and signed off on this statement I mean I was involved last year with putting together some of the wording of that uh of that uh the ndaa which was passed into law so I mean so what are they basing their opinions on they're basing their opinions on the dozens of individuals who in one manner or another have come forward and talked to them in classified settings so that's the first thing then my personal experiences with the individuals who are who well the one person who actually was involved with collecting a lot of that original information uh and then my experience with people who frankly I know have worked or are working on the reverse engineering programs okay so let's let's take one step back reverse engineering programs of downed craft now the first question that people will ask is well if they're so freaking Advanced why are they why are they crashing because what's crashing is not actual living things I mean if you I use this example a lot if you wanted to study a tribe of cannibals in the middle of the Amazon are you going to go yourself and show up in the middle of the of the tribe and not hopefully become dinner on the other side of it so if you're an advanced intelligence you know I don't think we're all that advanced frankly um you're not going to basically put your your uh life and limb at risk by coming here so mostly what you're seeing here are either drones or some sort of advanced AI or whatever it is I mean look we're we're already we're already dealing with a an alien intelligence in our own emails right our own uh you know chat GPT Etc we don't even know what it's doing so imagine if you were a million years ahead of us uh how do you how do you have a dialogue with something like that or what is it that could possibly do yeah and I'm glad I'm glad that we've got some people here to witness these statements I think they're very consequential and so we start with now 100 probability of extraterrestrial intelligence we go to evidence we now talk about down craft we see the the government moving in a certain direction presumably the downcraft is made of some material presumably we could test that material I know you've done a little bit of work firsthand you have seen some material do you want to talk about that a little bit right well um you know so what is it that you hope to discover out of a material so let's just go back I mean just briefly uh and and why would you want to do it in the first place so basically a grain of silicon you know back in the 50s or 60s changed our entire culture and world right I mean so something as small as that the discovery of what you could accomplish with a little piece of germanium uh doped with the right uh elements changed our understanding now so we have multiple simultaneous sensor systems that have seen these objects go from 50 feet above the water to up to 14 miles and then back in less than a second all right I mean that's just a truth the U.S government has confirmed that these kinds of measurements have done now they're very careful what they say they say well we have no evidence of E.T well because you know no ET is going to come walking in here and say hello right but um if you read between the lines on the flip side of it it does stuff that we can't do we know that the Russians and the Chinese are not doing and so if you can go from zero to five thousand miles an hour and take a a right turn and not end up squished like a bug on the windscreen on the other side if they have windscreens uh then what is the physics that accomplishes that so what that tells you is that we need to rethink our physics first of all to say that well you know we saw birds fly so it took us 3000 years we figured out how to fly but now we see these things doing this so what is it that that lets us do so I know some of the physicists on the inside who work at some of these big defense corporations who basically oh well here's how you tweak even general relativity to accomplish that but then you say well how much energy is needed to do it well more than the whole nuclear output of the planet per day per movement so you start to backtrack and you say okay well who could do that well we can't will we be able to do it in a thousand years but if we had a piece of any of this let's say it's a thousand uh uh revolutions ahead of us or a million revolutions ahead of us even a tiny piece of knowledge from that could revolutionize what it is that we're doing I'm always I'm always looking for the opportunity I look at the at the upside of this I'm not worried about them coming and you know raiding us or yeah taking our women and children uh that's not my concern my concern is how do we use it yeah yeah and and I'm curious do you have confidence that you us collectively will have material literal physical material to evaluate to analyze yes 100 I'm 100 again it's there it's there it's I mean I can say this I I was working with a group about seven eight years ago and I literally got within a few weeks of gaining access to one of the um one of the objects and when the people who didn't want us to gain access to it found out about it they pulled some bureaucratic administrative tricks and snatched it away it's wild and and so so now we have you Dr Nolan making this bold statement you are well positioned to make this statement now maybe we get into like some fun let's like feel comfortable hypothesizing a little bit as to what is happening like what what is it right like nobody's gonna hold you to this right now maybe we go down from 100 probability to now we're speculating right okay now let's speculate together what what do you think it is right so to to do that I'll start with kind of a mantra I've had for the last while so you know individual experiences of what people see is an anecdote but an anecdote doesn't convince a scientist what's a convinces what is it that convinces a scientist data right what doesn't convince scientists a conclusion so really the objective here and what has allowed me to actually talk to some of my scientist colleagues who first said ...