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Last time they took inspiration from iOS we ended up with "Launchpad", an inverted scroll-wheel, and the god-awful "restart all applications after reboot"-nuisance that cannot be fully disabled.

Thanks but no thanks.

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You like restoring all your applications by hand every time you have to run Software Update?

Yes, because then they don't all start at once, fight for RAM and swap around while leaving my computer a useless lagging mess when I just want to open a browser. It's probably okay in some cases, but it shouldn't be the default. Instead of prompting before shutdown, it could display a dialog on boot with a list of applications that had been running. Click on one to restore it, and have a "Restore All" option at the bottom.

I'm a huge fan of the inverted scrolling, though.

I noticed on my old MacBook there was a considerable delay relaunching apps, but with my new one, between more RAM and the SSD it's pretty instantaneous, as is the restart itself. I was always careful about quitting apps to free up RAM on the old machine though, but just relaunching Chrome and bringing all my tabs back up was enough to do the same thing.

Honestly, yes.

This is a much smaller burden to me than having to wait for OSX to launch all sorts of random apps after every single reboot. Most of which I simply close right away anyway because there's no point in having them clutter my screen until I actually need them again.

I reboot because I want a clean slate. Otherwise, I put the machine to sleep.

Or when you need to restart the machine because of a low-level software update... or because something has gone wrong with the software or the hardware.

Interesting. When I want to quit applications, I quit applications. When I'm done running the machine for awhile, I sleep it. I only ever reboot because of software update anymore.

There are better solutions than restarting applications in that case -- specifically, c/r solutions aren't too hard, and require no work from app developers to support.

Well, to add insult to injury, resume plain out doesn't work as soon as you leave the beaten path ever so slightly.

I.e. I really don't need iTerm to resume because it can't restore my sessions anyway. And even most regular apps fail to resume for me because almost all of my files are on a network share that OSX fails to auto-mount.

I would love it if it restored things to the proper desktop. When it actually matters (i.e.: you have multiple desktops setup with different browsers for different purposes, making re-opening them all in the proper place a pain) it is useless.

When I restart an operating system, I expect it to do exactly that: bring my system back up in a state where nothing except the core os is running.

For the record, neither the iPhone nor the iPad restarts applications after reboot; the only applications that are started when the device boots are MobilePhone, sometimes MobileMail, and any app marked with "run in the background" permissions that explicitly request it for scenarios such as VoIP (e.g. Skype, so it can sign in to the service on boot).

You can effectively disable the restart all applications behaviour by doing this: http://osxdaily.com/2011/08/25/disable-reopen-windows-when-l...

It would be nice if there was a proper system preference though.

Launchpad is great and the scrolling behavior makes total sense. We also got fullscreen mode, which is the first multiple desktop like thing I've ever gotten used to using (even after years of using Linux, where I could never make use of virtual desktops because I couldn't remember what windows had gone where). The iPad-inspired improvements in Lion were probably the biggest jump in my desktop productivity since I got a Mac to begin with (around 10.4).

I bought my first mac this fall. I can honestly say I love Launchpad and the inverted scroll wheel. Don't be afraid of a lil change.

It's not change but in the case of Launchpad poor implementation. No control over what gets added without a 3rd party utility, no admin interface for serious arranging and even if you do wipe the database and manually add icons, it still winds up reseting once you install an application after the fact. Try installing Adobe CS to see how badly messed up it can get. I wonder if this is a glimpse of what it's like to not have SJ being around to say "this is shit!" and make them do it better.

On inverted scroll, it's great until you have to use someone else's mac or a PC then it just gets painful.

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