Are these things HN readers didn't know?
I didn't know you can do operator overloading in Java (with Manifold). That would be interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwQs-308OdY
I didn't know you can do operator overloading in Java (with Manifold). That would be interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwQs-308OdY
I think Manifold is extremely cool, and it does look like they're keeping up with the latest -- but the deep compiler magic it relies on really makes me nervous.
It’s Oracle’s saber rattling lately concerning plugins like Lombok and Manifold that make me more disappointed than nervous.
Personally, I will probably introduce some of it to a project I'm working on. Here's why:
* It's relatively conservative - almost of all its work is done in compile time. Once you have a binary and it went through testing then Manifold is irrelevant.
* It's open source - I know it's not the same as "support" but the project has been around for a while and the author is active.
* Worst case scenario I can remove it - it would suck since I will need to rewrite code. But the compiler will point me at the exact lines of code I need to fix.
But while that does seem cool, I'd hesitate to call manifold-driven operator overloading as "modern java supporting op overloading". To me it has the same vibe as simulating high-level syntax in c via hacky macros.
Modern Java is the title of the series that talks about many different subjects including new Java language features, etc.
Hm, ok, in that case, slightly less hacky. Probably more comparable to using gcc extensions then... in that, I'd still hesitate to call it "this is evidence that c supports x" ... but it's the kind of statement that could be argued both ways, and discussions would probably quickly devolve into semantics and pedantry rather than anything of practical significance.
It's very impressive and far bigger than the operator overloading stuff. The other videos in that series cover some of the other features.