Petrucci Music Library
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Some composers had very neat handwriting!
I used to play with a Renaissance group that played ca. 1500 music (published by Petrucci himself!) and they transcribed it into urtexts, which I appreciated. Two big factors in that were a) using more comfortable clefs b) turning something written in parts into a score. It's helpful to see what the harmonic situation is, and playing off a score makes that much easier.
Also, chord symbols are possibly the only respectable use of Comic Sans!
Can you comment on what good sheet music typesetting looks like, or is it something intangible that you just "know it when you see it"?
http://www.thepianoshed.com/teaching-blog/the-truth-about-th...
Amusingly, it's about the controversy over whether the chord changes are accurate or not. Now, this style has heavily influenced how jazz "lead sheets" are typeset as well. For instance Chuc Sher's "New Real Book" has a section in the foreword about how they studied the script of the old Real Book before starting their own project.
Now a typeset sheet for another tune:
https://www.musicforballetclass.com/product/take-the-a-train...
Notice that the chord symbols are much smaller -- nobody can bring themselves to make the font big enough for some reason. The melody is broken up into awkward groups of 3, 4, and 5 measures. And so forth. It's like trying to write a poem with word wrap turned on.
The typical workflow for a jazz chart was that the composer / arranger wrote a score with all of the parts, and sent it to a copyist, who wrote out the individual parts for use by the band. The copyist earned repeat business by the quality of their work.
What is great is that nowadays with an iPad Pro, and Apple pencil, we have an ideal situation to read directly from original manuscripts in full color and in high fidelity. It is especially helpful to have all of the manuscripts in your library and to be able to compare different concordant versions of the same pieces from different manuscripts.
Regarding legibility, yes there are issues. For example, in the Dresden manuscripts, D-Dl Mus. 2841-V-1,1-6, which contain possibly the greatest collection of music by the most prolific composer in the history of the instrument, Sylvius Leopold Weiss (1687-1750), there is major water damage incurred on many pages as a result of the firebombing of Dresden in 1945 at the end of WWII. With the iPad, the Apple pencil, and the high quality scan from *SLUB, it is possible to draw on a layer directly on top of the manuscript in the ForScore app, and make it legible.
I think there is something to be said for performing directly from the original manuscripts, and in the case of Sylvius Weiss, often from his own handwriting. I personally take comfort in the fact that there is nothing between my interpretation and what the composer left us. There is also a spiritual aspect to the practice of reading from primary sources. I find it somewhat magical to make music directly from the same score that the composer or scribe was using and was left to us.
And because the lute is rather "new" as in very few people are familiar with it, reading through these sources is a bit like being a musical archaeologist. There are so many treasures to be found and aspects of music making that we as modern society have forgotten or are oblivious to. These treasures are sitting in manuscripts of early music across the world, waiting to be found. It is so important to understand just how they made music in the early history of humanity where there was no television, phone, no recorded sound and so forth. There wasn't even an international pitch standard! Studying each stroke of the quill in these manuscripts helps us give insight into their musical and artistic intentions. I believe it leads to better music making, at least for me...
*SLUB = Staats- und Universitätsbibliothek Dresden, Sächsische Landesbibliothek
*Here is sample of one of the good pages from the Dresden MS, Sonata 38 by Weiss: https://ibb.co/72PbHPc
*Here is a firebombed/water damaged page: https://ibb.co/RHsgjS4
My current project (literally this minute) is reducing thousands of pages of Scarlatti into the curated subset that's Vladimir Horowitz' repertoire. As soon as I finish, I'll listen to his album again, with all the scores in one place :)
https://manpages.debian.org/bullseye/pdftk-java/pdftk.1.en.h...
I only used the subcommands "cat" (extract & concatenate PDF pages) and "update_info" (to edit ToC metadata).
Alternatively maybe even github depending on the legality
Together with openstreetmap it is my favourite project of all time.
100% of my colleagues are using ForScore on an iPad for these purposes.
Great feature set, great support, stable, very fast. And page-turning is ultra-fast. If you need that to be hands-free, there are numerous hardware options for that.
You can also just reach out and flick the page on the touch screen, not as elegant but more predictable than flipping a printed page -- at least your sheets won't go flying. Managing page turns does get easier with experience, and you learn to prepare your charts -- taping them together, dog-earing them so you can quickly grab a corner, sometimes cutting things apart and rearranging so a page turn happens at a convenient location such as a couple measures of rest.
I'm a jazz musician, and have a Windows tablet, that was a hand-me-down. It only has a 10" screen, making conventional music notation hard to read. It's OK for reading chord symbols. I also have a notebook PC with 14" touch screen, that can operate in tablet mode, so I can lay it open on my music stand. That's a lot more readable, and has full blown computer functionality if I need it, but of course there's the danger of the stand tipping over.
Admittedly I still prefer paper, for one thing it's a lot easier to annotate with a pencil, quickly.
You picked my interest.
- what makes an "edition" ("score"?) outdated?
- can you give examples for a weird editorial decision, maybe by additionally providing an alternative good editorial version?
- what happened that something deemed correct (?) over 50 years ago is nowadays something no one agrees with?
That said imslp is still a life-saver and playing music would be a lot more painful (and expensive!) without it
https://imslp.org/wiki/IMSLP:Copyright_Made_Simple#Urtext_Ed...
(copyright laws afford Urtext editions shorter terms of protection than original works)
Compare that with: https://imslp.org/wiki/File:PMLP05948-WTC_1_No_1-12.pdf
A modern Urtext edition would also include detailed information about which manuscript and early edition sources it was prepared from, and any unresolved or variant readings between these sources, with performance suggestions (apart sometimes from fingerings) relegated to supplementary notes that are clearly written by the editors and not the composer.
I am working on adding new scores, but in many cases these old things are either the only editions published or the only editions we can take.
IMSLP accepts urtext editions over 25 years old. We have a good amount of these from series for the most famous composers (e.g., Mozart, Bach...) but these are only a minority of the collection. We of course would like to add more.
Otherwise, for "original" editorial editions, as well as arrangements, etc., we take them so long as the contributors of original creative contributors died in 1971 or earlier, or, as the case may be with amateur editions, with permission (note: we actually do have a significant number of quite good editions/arrangements contributed with permission, but we have a lot of files on the site overall).
The other thing is, since we draw from many existing digitizations (such as national libraries), and most of their digitized documents are quite old.
If you have any particular requests, please add them to the wishlist: https://imslp.org/wiki/Wishlist
Anyway, we are not really like Wikipedia, since we have a great deal of those primary sources on our site (incl. many autograph mss., as well as historical editions), and we're fundamentally more a collection of sources than a synthesis of them like WP. But we are certainly not a complete collection of sources, by any means (for both practical and legal reasons).
Do you have a working definition of "urtext"? A lot of famous Bach and Mozart keyboard stuff was written on C clef for the right hand, but many so-called urtexts transcribe it to G. I don't understand how this can be seriously called urtext.
I feel very uneasy changing the notation of the original, even if the music sounds the same, and naming it "urtext".
No big deal... after all, you can buy "urtext" with editor-provided fingerings from many publishers, so the word is almost meaningless at this point.
Maybe you don't like modern clefs, but by no means are they any sort of "original" work by the standards of copyright law in any country. (Even in the small handful of countries that recognize typographical arrangements/engravings per se as copyrightable in themselves, like the UK, changing the clefs used is not considered original in any way.)
Pure transposition, by the way, is also not considered an original copyrightable creative change.
I think you have focused in on the wrong aspect entirely from the musical standpoint... the purpose of any of these editions is not to be a facsimile of some existing document (facsimiles of autograph manuscripts exist), but really just to be critical editions taking into account a number of sources and intending to establish the work as it is in a certain state (generally, an early state) according to certain editorial principles, rather than reflecting the editor's personal creative opinions on how the work should be interpreted.
As for the fingerings provided in some critical editions, these are not really relevant, because they are clearly marked (when applicable) as separate from the text itself, and they can easily be redacted (as we need to do sometimes) or ignored. By the same token, the preface or editorial footnotes in these editions are separate from the presented musical object — do you believe a preface or footnotes somehow makes the thing provided in the same pages indescribable?
I picked a somewhat well-known (but not too well-known) composer (Wilhelm Stenhammar) and selected three works at random. In each case, Musopen's file is the same as the topmost file on IMSLP.
https://musopen.org/music/22022-violin-sonata-op19/
https://musopen.org/music/22020-symphony-no2-op34/
https://musopen.org/music/22021-turandot-op42/
https://imslp.org/wiki/Violin_Sonata%2C_Op.19_(Stenhammar%2C...
https://imslp.org/wiki/Symphony_No.2%2C_Op.34_(Stenhammar%2C...
https://imslp.org/wiki/Turandot%2C_Op.42_(Stenhammar%2C_Wilh...
> IMSLP, also known as the International Music Score Library Project or Petrucci Music Library, was started in 2006. The logo on the main page is a capital letter A. It was taken from the beginning of the very first printed book of music, the Harmonice Musices Odhecaton. It was published in Venice in 1501 by Ottaviano Petrucci, the library's namesake.
We're using machine learning instead of old-school image processing techniques (which are fast but can be very brittle).
Here is the Portnoy's angle version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_L4WassMWQ
The Mutopia project is dormant (per admissions and observations from contributors in the project's mailing list), and under current maintainership (or lack thereof) having contributions processed is hit-or-miss[0].
> latex versions of music
Lilypond is not based on (La)TeX, but lilypond-book, a companion utility that processes lilypond files, allows scores (or fragments) to be integrated into LaTeX, DocBook, Texinfo, and HTML documents[1].
(There is a LaTeX package for music typesetting called MusiXTeX[2], which was used by many scores of the former Werner Icking Music Archive, which merged[3] long ago into IMSLP).
0: Primary contribution channel: https://github.com/MutopiaProject/MutopiaProject
1: Usage of lilypond-book: https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.23/Documentation/usage/integrati...
2: MusiXTeX package home page: https://ctan.org/pkg/musixtex?lang=en
The Petrucci Music Library - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22752114 - April 2020 (21 comments)
They also post updates on their blogs on whats new Also you can access it through an API as well
https://imslp.org/wiki/Rhapsody_in_Blue_(Gershwin%2C_George)
Ha-- he's got a single grand staff for "jazz band" and just names the instruments inline.
Judging by the historical recordings, that included an extra piano for the jazz pianist to noodle around on, which is kind of funny to see on stage. Sometimes people will throw in a banjo, too.
Also-- if you've ever had the experience of trying to remember a song and singing things in your head in the wrong order-- so did George Gershwin! You can see where he crossed out a small piano solo excerpt and then wrote it back in after a little interlude with piano and French horn. I.e., "oops, that's supposed to come later," or perhaps, "hm, this section needs to be longer, let me insert a little thingy with a drone in l.h. and French horn inner line. Yeah, that's good..."
Near the beginning he appears to have initially considered a hacky little Lisztian rising chromatic scale that alternates with a repeated octave in the bass. That apparently was supposed to lead the band playing the main theme, very soon after they already played it. He crossed out the entire thing and replaced it with an echo of the little syncopated mumble, followed by an imitation of the opening clarinet scale. Then he has a more elegant re-harmonization (changing the chords) of the main theme and a little subtle interplay between piano and jazz band. This is followed by a fairly long cadenza, and then he finally brings the jazz band back in with a full statement of the theme.
You can literally see the signs of him throwing out a simple song form with a short solo break and turning it into a more substantial through-composed form. Almost like he got stuck, went and listened to (or played) Tchaikovsky's Piano Concert No. 1, then came back and finished the piece!
Apparently, Gershwin actually improvised on top of what's written here for the debut. IIRC Marcus Roberts did the same in a live performance some years back. I'm impressed by anyone who can do that live; however, he didn't really stay in the Gershwin style for his cadenzas. Gershwin's improvisations are these idiosyncratic little polyrhythmic automatons, drawing heavily on stride style as well as popular syncopated and dance rhythms of his era. And in Rhapsody you'd have to fit that in with the classical-style arabesques. It's got to be something like musical "method acting" to be able to pull this off.
And bonus points if the improviser can throw in some subtle R&B or rap references in the improvisations. :)
Chrome-- takes 10 seconds to even load the PDF reader. While it appears to have loaded most of the pages after that time, the entire window becomes laggy by about 1 second or so for any event-- scroll, page down, etc. (Didn't even dare to zoom...)
Native Gnome whatever PDF reader-- anywhere from 5 to 25 second load time for each page. (After that, that particular page responds immediately to scrolling.)
There's also https://www.classclef.com/ which appears to be a tidier fork of the above