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> purely cultural

oh, I got one to admit he was "intimidated" by Java.

Note: there is a subset of developers who have either hit one of Java/JVMs limitations, or, subscribe as a matter of professional judgement and taste to a school of programming (say FP) that is not a good fit to Java and JVM's orientation (classes, OOP). This subset is an informed subset and their feedback is reasonable and at times has helped Java/JVM move forward.

I don't particularly like Java (but I did love it back in 98 or so when I came across it, coming from C++), but it's mostly due to the proliferation of OO monstrosities created by architecture astronauts. The language itself is ok, if too verbose. The JVM is awesome when you use something like Clojure on top of it.

It’s funny but a lot of JS haters are Java devs. Which also don’t know a thing about JS, or at least think JS looks like in the 90s, with callback hells and whatnot.

I know both Javascript as well as Java. Java trumps JS by a mile