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I think what Fred is saying is that in the wake of SOPA's failure, the entertainment industry might be willing to come to the table with tech and work to ban the worst offenders, rather than pushing for the kind of overarching, draconian laws that the public rejects.

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Then he is stupid or misinformed. It should be well know by now that RIAAs tactics are always to attack and then, when stopped, offer to start 'negotiating'.

It is essentially roll the die: even and they win big, odd and they win, just a little less. We always lose. Don't get sucked into playing that game.

Fred is wrong, they already have that power through the DOJ and ICE..the SOPA/ACTA etc push was to 'LEGALIZE' DOJ tactics..thing ABOUT IT...

The internet has spoken ..SECRET DEALS only get one response out-RIGHT WAR

Exactly. This kind of thinking that "we all know that site is bad" happened to Dajaz1, too, and yet the Court disagreed. Imagine the potential for abuse for such "we all know who's a pirate" cases.

Plus, we still haven't figured out how bad piracy really is and what it means for humanity. I refuse to support anymore copyright enforcement laws, until we overhaul copyright laws first, and we adapt them to the 21st century. Not a single new copyright law until we reform what we already have and repeal some of the abusive ones, like the last few copyright extensions, amend the DMCA against abusers to pay higher damages, and so on.

You don't think its reasonable to pursue cases against sites like MegaUpload, where clear evidence can be established that they uploaded copyrighted content with the intent to profit?

Doesn't it protect community sites like Tumblr and Reddit to carve out a clear definition of who an offender is?

Not if they can be added to that list without due process.

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