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where are they gonna go when few allow wfh?

Even if none allow WFH, they might go somewhere with less of a commute, or to a more trustworthy employer that doesn't backtrack on promises.

People are still acting like the current job environment doesn’t suck. Where are these trustworthy companies currently that aren’t also announcing layoffs or that you can count on not to have layoffs?

I don't think you can count of any company not to have layoffs, that's quite dependant on the economy, company performance, sector, etc.

If a company promised no layoffs ever, I wouldn't believe them. But if they promised to continue WFH, I'd believe them, since that's directly under their control.

No you can’t. But the odds are better for not having layoffs if they are actually profitable.

Aside from FAANG, there's no evidence this trend is picking up.

In fact, I bet all the people that got laid off recently will be happily hired by remote first companies very quickly.

You mean all of the “remote first” companies that are profitable and not struggling?

Most employment is from small businesses, by the numbers. Most small businesses are struggling-to-fragile at best as most fail. The "not paying for office space is a sizable plus" contingent alone would give a substantial number of WFH jobs Counterintuitively there are loads of jobs from the companies who are struggling.

And how many employees at Dell would risk working for a small struggling employee in this market? Would that small employee pay as much?

This is my third time seeing this type of job market (2000, 2008 being the other two). This is the time where there is a “flight to quality”.

> And how many employees at Dell would risk working for a small struggling employee in this market?

The laid off ones.

In that case, they by definition aren’t “employees at Dell”.

No, I don't mean that.

So many allow WFH. There's thousands of open software positions in SF alone, and plenty are ok with remote. Some are even ok with me being in the taiwan time zone. I'm managed to stay consistently employed in the Taiwan time zone with SF and NYC based jobs the last 2.5 years.

Curiously, for some candidates, almost every letter of the FAANG, WILL give a full WFH offer, today, and they are willing to put this down with ink on paper.

Source: have a few of those on my desk right now.

In my case, more than likely change industries.

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