One thing with the bail reform movement is that the voters who are asked whether they support it don't necessarily understand the seemingly obvious, but technically non-obvious terms being used.

For example in NY, it was sold as only applying to non-violent crimes. So one might say - sure this sound great, obviously we don't need to pre-trial hold non-violent criminals!

However technically, as defined in law, theres a lot of things that "sound violent" but are considered non-violent felonies. Second degree manslaughter (125.15) is, for the purposes of NY State law, a non-violent felony.

So the next question - what might get a person charged with second degree manslaughter? * Well, a guy recently chocked an erratic mentally ill homeless man to death on the subway was charged with second degree manslaughter only

Other historical examples just to name a few-

* Speeding 55mph in a 25mph local road (Delancey), killing a pedestrian and fleeing the scene

* Guy accidentally shooting a friend with an unregistered gun while playing video games

* DUI with kids in the car so badly you flip the car, killing one child

* Drunken stealing a truck, driving up 7th Ave and hitting a Bus so fast they killed the driver

* Guy overdosing his 10 month old on fentanyl somehow

* Cop accidentally shoots a guy in the stairway of a housing project, proceeds to leave and call union rep rather than render assistance, while arguing with his partner not to report the shooting

* Drunk driving 90mph in a 25mph, crashing into another drunk driver who was on a suspended license, killing a passenger in the back, and the most either of them got charged with was again, second degree manslaughter