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I'm in Europe, and also believe that iPads are unbeatable when talking about price - in both nominal and price/value ratio sense.

I have been an iPad user for over a decade. 2 years ago I was shopping for a new tablet. I went to a local electronics shop trying some of them out: the affordable (~300 EUR for me) Lenovo, Huawei and Samsung ones all stuttered even in their own setting menu. The high end Samsungs were nice - starting at 600EUR.

Settled for a base iPad for 300 EUR. I hate Apple, but iPads are literally cheap, have good performance, and offer more than magnified phone applications, even with the crappy iOS.

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> I'm in Europe, and also believe that iPads are unbeatable when talking about price - in both nominal and price/value ratio sense

The problem with iPad is that if you want a larger screen you have to get the very expensive iPad Pro. For large screen sizes, the Android ecosystem is much better value.

iPad still has huge disadvantages to me:

- Android tablets have the Opera browser which has text reflow functionality which works much much better than anything else. This is a huge deal for me. - I can access the file system and do whatever I want with it. - I still like notifications more in Android vs iPadOS.

If it were not for these things, I would buy an iPad in a heartbeat.

And iPads get about 5 years of major version updates.

The 600€ high end Samsung will maybe get one Android OS update.

This is FUD. Samsung promise 5 years of security updates and 4 OS updates:

https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-sets-the-new-standar...

It's not FUD. Apple has _delivered_ updates for multiple generations of devices for 5+ years.

Samsung has promised to update for 4 OS versions. They haven't delivered anything yet. We'll see in 2027 if they can actually deliver.

I had Samsung s9+ in 2018 and I did have monthly security upgrades up until 2022 when I had it. Their promise was 5 years of security upgrades.

I also had the latest Android version. iirc they promised 3 years of OS upgrades

Casting fear, uncertainty and doubt over a manufacturers claims is literally what FUD stands for. And that's what you're doing.

This topic will probably resolve itself from 2025 on when the EU will start requiring 5 years of software updates.

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