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same with guns. We need gun control. There's a world of gun control examples to sample and decide what or what combination might be a good starting point for us, we can't get to the table to talk about it.
The same is true of gun control. There are many, many laws already on the books regarding gun control. Yet you take the disingenuous approach of “they won’t even engage in a discussion about any sort of regulation”. The discussion is happening constantly, just because the outcome isn’t the one you want it doesn’t mean there isn’t a conversation.
Firearm homicides are concentrated among people who are mostly already criminals. I'm happy to give you sources if you'd like. Gun control wouldn't work well for people who already aren't following the law.
In terms of a truly "random" shooting that people are sensibly more afraid of, like a mass shooting event, you're roughly about ten times more likely to be killed or injured by that than being killed or injured by a lightning strike. Even for people younger than 45, heart disease or narcotics overdoses each kills more than gun homicides. By your logic, we should have fast food control and revamp the War on Drugs, leaving aside the fact that there is an actual enumerated constitutional right to civilian firearm ownership.
If you care about people being shot by others, banning AR-15s from law-abiding citizens does approximately nothing, so I find that a focus on gun control is not well-reasoned.
> People can't afford to get sick. Don't mention socialized medicine, you'll just end up footing the bill for illegals.
Healthcare costs are elevated in this country, sure. There's a lot we could do to alleviate that, including deregulation. Socialized medicine isn't all sunshine and rainbows, either; our northern neighbors are waiting an average of three months to see a specialist after being referred by a GP, then another three to four months before they receive actual treatment by that specialist. It's a classic example of a government-imposed price ceiling leading to a shortage.
> The capitalist class is abusing the working class, unions have their own problems so "ehh," and then there's people bending over backwards to take the perspective of the billionaires.
> I expect any drastic finance reform would be met with similar fear from a class of people only ever abused by the thing they're protecting.
Yes, those poor dumb rednecks who are always voting against their interests. I hope some day you can bend over backwards to take the perspective of the rednecks and see if you can find a different reason behind their motive.
shut the fuck up and and realize the problem isn't farmers and rednecks its inner city twats that think they're farmers and rednecks. I live in AZ.
I made a good faith effort to engage with the discussion points you raised. Have a nice day.