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> I miss those days here in the US were somekind of sexual impropriety would end someone's political career.

Who cares, as long as sex is consensual? Seriously, what’s wrong with having sex? The fact that a political career can be ended because someone made a fake video is much more troubling.

I’m not American, but I am glad we just shrug when we learn about a famous politician’s lover. People are not going to stop fucking. The more we accept that the better, at least then it cannot be used for blackmail or coercion.

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I think the issue isn’t the sex, but the circumstances surrounding it. Such as infidelity or exploitative power dynamics.

Also wouldn't this technically be considered revenge porn under current US law?

Imagine coming in 2023 to an American site and telling people to have any sort of moral standards, like not having extra-marital sex. What a sucker.

In case of Turkish politicians, they are all claiming to be following the religion of Islam and it is forbidden to have non-marital sex in Islam religion.

Such tapes can definitely end someones political career very swiftly in Türkiye.

Unfortunately, someone claiming not to be following Islam religion is not going to be elected at all, but maybe this will change into the future, so that religion stops being criteria to be elected.

Maybe one day...

> In case of Turkish politicians, they are all claiming to be following the religion of Islam and it is forbidden to have non-marital sex in Islam religion.

So they have something in common with holier-than-thou republican hypocrites. And many others around the world, this attitude is not uniquely Turkish or American.

> Such tapes can definitely end someones political career very swiftly in Türkiye.

In some presumably-liberal western countries as well, unfortunately.

> Maybe one day...

I really hope so. For the sake of everyone living there.

I see where you're coming from but we've had a lot of politicians over the last several years implicated in some pretty bad stuff. From sexual harassment to sex trafficking.

True. Harassment, rape, and non-consensual sex in general is terrible and should be punished. And we should certainly not elect criminals. Impunity is destroying trust in the state and the government. If you think the US have it bad, have a loony at the recent history in the uk. This is utterly appalling.

This is a bit different, though. Having an affair is not a crime and should not be. Not having an affair but having opponents making up fake documents is even worse.

I assumed this referring to the recent Trump case, so it is actually about sexual abuse.

In Trump’s case, it was way more than “impropriety”. I took it as referring to the Turkish politician’s case, where no rape, harassment, or assault is credibly alleged. Abuse is a different thing entirely, but affairs are not abuse per se.

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