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PMs and other management may feel like this is a win in the short term, but it isn't sustainable long term.

You're saying they were aware of the Adderall abuse as it was happening?

Or just that they saw all these stellar high performers around them and thought, "What's not to like?"

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I think it's more like... employee is put on a Performance Improvement Plan (PIP), employee goes to doctor and gets an Adderall script, employee is taken off PIP and management considers this a job well done.

> employee is taken off PIP

Waittasec. That happens?

I was also under the impression that PIP was a way to slow-roast firing someone, not something that would be temporary.

It is basically, and you're supposed to get the "hint".

But the way it's structured - at least on paper, there's supposed to be some way in which you can pass the "test" and endure an extra run of gaslighting and ostracization until they figure out another way to get rid of you.

50%ish of employees get off PIPs successfully (or used to anyways).

I got off one at Google but ended up burning out and quitting anyways so not really a success.

Actually it is, and very substantially so -- in the sense that you left on your own terms rather than getting fired or laid off.

Except for the burning out part. Which unfortunately seems to be the natural cost of spending any amount of time in this industry.

Surely the bosses in the finance world are totally unaware of the massive cocaine use, right?

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