What's the correlation between people who don't use debuggers and people who use notebooks? I can't imagine writing code without a visual debugger, one at a level of pycharm. I think people who use notebooks must either be very active how they write code (don't misremeber variables, complexity of arrays, dicts etc) or have other means of debugging (print? Jupyterlab debugger? pbd?).

I love notebooks for their ability to preload chunks of code/data and have the ability to explore without delay. But having to put mental strain in keeping track of objects is too much for me. Vscode and pycharm have made strides in unifying the experience but it's still very much sub par, at least in my experience. Matlab-like style of executing code with possibility of reusing same debugger solution was perfect.