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> - The cars are very safe, very conservative drivers

So great to hear. Seeing videos of self-driving Tesla made me fear for the worst.

Here's one concrete example -- these cars almost never take left hand turns. They'll route multiple right hand turns to get somewhere, which makes it feel much less risky when pulling onto a busy street from a neighborhood, for example.

UPS style!

https://theconversation.com/why-ups-drivers-dont-turn-left-a...

I wish my navigation supported that feature.

I just make a right turn and let it reroute.

Tbh, you shouldn't compare Tesla "AutoPilot" with these full self driving options.

> Tbh, you shouldn't compare Tesla "AutoPilot" with these full self driving options.

Right. Because Tesla FSD “beta” is not guaranteed, even if you pay for the monthly subscription.

And even if you did have Tesla FSD beta, it’s a pile of shit. It’s gets worse every quarter as they continue to remove safety sensors from vehicles due to supply chain issues.

We haven’t watched the same FSD videos on YouTube lately but ok.

The Tesla full self driving private beta is more comparable, but not able to drive by itself for long time.

>The Tesla full self driving private beta is more comparable

Have they removed the "you need to be fully aware and ready to grab the wheel" requirements of FSD? If not, how is this comparable? There is no driver.

I mention that in the second part of the sentence you quote. It's comparable in some ways because the car drives itself most of the time. And apparently is not restricted to some well mapped areas.

It's understandable, but very unfortunate that people group Waymo, Cruise, and Tesla together. Waymo is at least 5-10 years more advanced.

It’s really really not, Waymo only works in a tiny section of the country which has almost perfect conditions for self driving. Let me know when it works in upstate New York during winter.

Tesla is developing a general solution which works everywhere and can take left hand turns! ;)

>Tesla is developing a general solution which works everywhere and can take left hand turns!

Ah yes, the classic comparison between a product you can literally go out and use, today, versus some hypothetical Tesla future state. No matter how good the technology is, Tesla promises something better and people act like it exists.

Waymo is only publically active in a limited area. By all indications, they could operate to the same or better standard than Tesla in unmapped areas.

Depends on your definition of advanced. A coffee maker is more advanced than Waymo because it can do something Waymo can't. Waymo could easily modify their cars so that they can make coffee and can drive everywhere with a lower failure rate than Tesla, but they don't want to. On the other hand, Tesla can't do what Waymo does.

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