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The privacy issues almost seem moot at this point to be honest. Everything on Facebook is either a scam, scam adjacent, or some kind of grift. It's actually incredible to see how Facebook has grown over the years. It's like the SPAM inbox in Gmail, but prettier and sprinkled with posts from "friends." Instagram has gone the same way.

I would say that, "Maybe I'm just getting old," but when I actually look at the humans on Facebook "interacting" with "content" they are all decades older than me. More and more Meta reminds me of QVC.

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I agree but they're Groups, Messenger and Marketplace offerings are best in the industry. It's what myself and most of my friends use it for now.

Funny. Groups is, by far, the worst offender in the entire Meta ecosystem. It's become THE TOOL for scammers. And because they can be private they can hide for much longer than they'd otherwise be able to. I actually feel confident in saying that Jan 6 would not have happened (the way it did) without Facebook Groups. It's a breeding ground for the worst of the worst to hang out in plain sight.

If you want to prey on seniors, if you want to run an MLM or affiliate marketing ring, or if you want to organize an insurrection or promote a conspiracy or antivax group Facebook Groups is THE PLACE. By absolute volume it's way worse the Telegram groups. Old people can't figure out Telegram, but Facebook Groups is their jam.

If you really want to make "six figures online" while working "four hours a week" all you need is a scammer mentality and a few Facebook Groups. Message me for access when you're ready to level up your life.

> Everything on Facebook is either a scam, scam adjacent, or some kind of grift.

> Groups is, by far, the worst offender in the entire Meta ecosystem

> It's a breeding ground for the worst of the worst to hang out in plain sight.

This is a lot to accuse without any evidence. Is there empirical data showing that these issues are as rampant as you claim? I have similar anecdata to the parent post - Groups/Marketplace/Messenger has been great for my family and friends, across a wide range of interests and use cases.

My take is that if you intentionally look for terrible things on the internet you'll be able to find it, and Facebook is no exception. It's non-sensical to think that organizing insurrections and losing your SSN is the de facto experience though.

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