21:I[22016,["/_next/static/chunks/0__7n94dydo3p.js","/_next/static/chunks/3g3jn3-8mbixu.js","/_next/static/chunks/2oj925msqucms.js","/_next/static/chunks/1ymt1shyhmu-4.js"],""] 22:I[5014,["/_next/static/chunks/0__7n94dydo3p.js","/_next/static/chunks/3g3jn3-8mbixu.js","/_next/static/chunks/2oj925msqucms.js","/_next/static/chunks/1ymt1shyhmu-4.js"],"default"] 23:I[49308,["/_next/static/chunks/0__7n94dydo3p.js","/_next/static/chunks/3g3jn3-8mbixu.js","/_next/static/chunks/2oj925msqucms.js","/_next/static/chunks/1ymt1shyhmu-4.js"],"TimeAgo"] 24:I[82661,["/_next/static/chunks/0__7n94dydo3p.js","/_next/static/chunks/3g3jn3-8mbixu.js","/_next/static/chunks/2oj925msqucms.js","/_next/static/chunks/1ymt1shyhmu-4.js"],"CommentThread"] 25:T2987,> DALL-E lost because they let MJ eat their lunch

I wonder why nobody is talking about Bing Image Creator

which uses some much more advanced version of Dall-E 2 in the background (so Dall-E 2.5? 3?), while being completely free to use. It can produce some pretty mind blowing results with quite simple prompts, although apparently not as impressive as Midjourney V5. A few examples:

hyperrealistic

https://www.bing.com/images/create/hyperrealistic/644fa0c48f...

an allegory for femininity

https://www.bing.com/images/create/an-allegory-for-femininit...

portrait of a strange woman, hyperrealistic

https://www.bing.com/images/create/portrait-of-a-strange-wom...

allegory of logic, portrait

https://www.bing.com/images/create/allegory-of-logic2c-portr...

her strange bedfellow

https://www.bing.com/images/create/her-strange-bedfellow/644...

Mrs fox

https://www.bing.com/images/create/mrs-fox/6446e85a32134e649...

inside view

https://www.bing.com/images/create/inside-view/6446f1dc573f4...

in the midst of it all

https://www.bing.com/images/create/in-the-midst-of-it-all/64...

strange gal

https://www.bing.com/images/create/strange-gal/6446e2a2ea7a4...

sighting of a strange entity in an abandoned library

https://www.bing.com/images/create/sighting-of-a-strange-ent...

sleeping marble woman next to a wall of strange pictures inside an abandoned museum, close-up

https://www.bing.com/images/create/sleeping-marble-woman-nex...

sculpture of a woman posing next to a wall of strange pictures, close-up

https://www.bing.com/images/create/sculpture-of-a-woman-posi...

Easter

https://www.bing.com/images/create/easter/643ae4968aff432684...

Christmas on board a spaceship, DSLR photograph

https://www.bing.com/images/create/christmas-on-board-a-spac...

an angel, dancing to heavy metal

https://www.bing.com/images/create/an-angel2c-dancing-to-hea...

Saturday afternoon in the streets of a buzzing cyberpunk city, photo-realistic, DSLR

https://www.bing.com/images/create/saturday-afternoon-in-the...

The Dogfather

https://www.bing.com/images/create/the-dogfather/6441d18950b...

the unlikely guest

https://www.bing.com/images/create/the-unlikely-guest/644446...

Strange pictures in an abandoned museum

https://www.bing.com/images/create/strange-pictures-in-an-ab...

strange woman in an abandoned museum, close-up

https://www.bing.com/images/create/strange-woman-in-an-aband...

strange woman in an abandoned museum, strange pictures in the background

https://www.bing.com/images/create/strange-woman-in-an-aband...

a wall of strange pictures in an abandoned museum in Atlantis, close-up

https://www.bing.com/images/create/a-wall-of-strange-picture...

female sculpture in an abandoned museum in Atlantis, close-up

https://www.bing.com/images/create/female-sculpture-in-an-ab...

the unlikely guest

https://www.bing.com/images/create/the-unlikely-guest/644490...

an unlikely guest of the secret society in the lost city in a country without name, close-up

https://www.bing.com/images/create/an-unlikely-guest-of-the-...

I think the quality of most of these pictures is far beyond what is achievable with Dall-E 2. One issue that still exists (though to a lesser extent) is the fact that faces have to cover a fairly large area of the image. Smaller faces look strange, e.g. here:

photograph of the unlikely guests

https://www.bing.com/images/create/photograph-of-the-unlikel...

It is as if the model creates a good draft in low resolution, and another model scales it up, but the latter model doesn't know what a face is? (I have no idea how diffusion models actually work.)19:[["$","article",null,{"className":"bg-white px-4 py-5 sm:mt-4 sm:rounded-xl sm:border sm:border-slate-200/70","children":[["$","div",null,{"className":"mb-3 flex flex-wrap gap-2","children":[["$","$L21",null,{"href":"/hacker-news/item/35818774","className":"inline-flex items-center gap-1.5 rounded-md border border-slate-200 bg-white px-3 py-1.5 text-sm text-slate-700 transition-colors hover:border-slate-300 hover:text-slate-900","children":[["$","$L22",null,{"ref":"$undefined","icon":{"name":"corner-left-up","size":24,"node":[["path",{"d":"M14 9 9 4 4 9","key":"1af5af"}],["path",{"d":"M20 20h-7a4 4 0 0 1-4-4V4","key":"1blwi3"}]]},"className":"h-4 w-4","strokeWidth":1.75}],"Parent"]}],["$","$L21",null,{"href":"/hacker-news/item/35813322#c35819444","className":"inline-flex items-center gap-1.5 rounded-md border border-slate-200 bg-white px-3 py-1.5 text-sm text-slate-700 transition-colors hover:border-slate-300 hover:text-slate-900","children":[["$","$L22",null,{"ref":"$undefined","icon":{"name":"list-tree","size":24,"node":[["path",{"d":"M8 5h13","key":"1pao27"}],["path",{"d":"M13 12h8","key":"h98zly"}],["path",{"d":"M13 19h8","key":"c3s6r1"}],["path",{"d":"M3 10a2 2 0 0 0 2 2h3","key":"1npucw"}],["path",{"d":"M3 5v12a2 2 0 0 0 2 2h3","key":"x1gjn2"}]]},"className":"h-4 w-4","strokeWidth":1.75}],"Full thread"]}]]}],null,null,["$","div",null,{"className":"mt-2 flex flex-wrap items-center gap-x-1.5 text-sm text-slate-500","children":[false,[["$","$L21",null,{"href":"/hacker-news/user/LordDragonfang","className":"font-medium text-slate-700 hover:underline","children":"LordDragonfang"}],["$","span",null,{"aria-hidden":true,"children":"·"}]],["$","$L23",null,{"time":1683222713}],false]}],["$","div",null,{"className":"break-words text-[15px] leading-relaxed text-slate-800 [&_a]:text-orange-700 [&_a]:underline [&_a]:decoration-orange-300 [&_a]:underline-offset-2 [&_a]:break-all hover:[&_a]:decoration-orange-600 [&_code]:font-mono [&_code]:text-[13px] [&_p]:mt-2.5 [&_pre]:mt-2.5 [&_pre]:overflow-x-auto [&_pre]:rounded-md [&_pre]:bg-slate-100 [&_pre]:p-3 [&_pre]:whitespace-pre mt-4","dangerouslySetInnerHTML":{"__html":"Midjourney is more popular because it takes zero technical know-how compared to SD (even with A1111 it took me nearly an hour to walk my competent-but-layman brother through installing it) and doesn't require a high-end gaming PC to run it. (DALL-E lost because they let MJ eat their lunch)"}}],["$","div",null,{"className":"mt-4 flex flex-wrap gap-2","children":["$undefined",null,["$","a",null,{"href":"https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35819444","target":"_blank","rel":"noopener noreferrer","className":"inline-flex items-center gap-1.5 rounded-md border border-slate-200 bg-white px-3 py-1.5 text-sm text-slate-700 transition-colors hover:border-slate-300 hover:text-slate-900","children":[["$","$L22",null,{"ref":"$undefined","icon":{"name":"arrow-up-right","size":24,"node":[["path",{"d":"M7 7h10v10","key":"1tivn9"}],["path",{"d":"M7 17 17 7","key":"1vkiza"}]]},"className":"h-4 w-4","strokeWidth":1.75}],"View on HN"]}]]}]]}],["$","section",null,{"aria-label":"Comments","className":"bg-white px-4 pb-4 sm:mt-4 sm:rounded-xl sm:border sm:border-slate-200/70","children":["$","$L24",null,{"comments":[{"id":35819623,"by":"dragonwriter","html":"> Midjourney is more popular because it takes zero technical know-how compared to SD

Both take zero technical knowledge to use the base models via first-party online hosts, but Midjourney is superior there.

SD offers a lot more capacity beyond what is available from the first-party online host, though, while with Midjourney, that’s where it begins and ends, there is nothing more.

> and doesn’t require a high-end gaming PC to run it.

Neither does SD (I use a couple-year-old business laptop with a 4GB Nvidia card; no sane person would call it a “highend gaming PC” to run A1111 locally, and there are options besides running it locally.)","time":1683223440,"descendants":0,"children":[]},{"id":35822477,"by":"cubefox","html":"$25","time":1683236500,"descendants":2,"children":[{"id":35836616,"by":"throw_nbvc1234","html":""Use of Creations. Subject to your compliance with this Agreement, the Microsoft Services Agreement, and our Content Policy, you may use Creations outside of the Online Services for any legal personal, non-commercial purpose."

Probably not the only factor but could be one.","time":1683331421,"descendants":1,"children":[{"id":35846551,"by":"cubefox","html":"> US law states that intellectual property can be copyrighted only if it was the product of human creativity, and the USCO only acknowledges work authored by humans at present. Machines and generative AI algorithms, therefore, cannot be authors, and their outputs are not copyrightable.

https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2023/03/16/ai_art_copyright_...

So the images can also be used commercially, and this holds as much for Microsoft as for Midjourney. (Though note that Microsoft isn't denying the usage for commercial purposes, though they made it sound as if they did.)","time":1683417855,"descendants":0,"children":[]}]}]}],"op":null,"storyId":35819444,"commentCount":4,"track":false}]}]] 1c:null 20:[["$","title","0",{"children":"Comment by LordDragonfang | Hacker News Reader"}],["$","meta","1",{"name":"description","content":"A fast, clean Hacker News reader. Top, new, best, Ask and Show HN, collapsible comment threads, new-comment highlights, search, and saved stories. No account needed."}],["$","link","2",{"rel":"manifest","href":"/manifest.webmanifest","crossOrigin":"$undefined"}],["$","meta","3",{"name":"robots","content":"noindex"}],["$","meta","4",{"property":"og:title","content":"Hacker News Reader"}],["$","meta","5",{"property":"og:description","content":"A fast, clean Hacker News reader. Top, new, best, Ask and Show HN, collapsible comment threads, new-comment highlights, search, and saved stories. No account needed."}],["$","meta","6",{"property":"og:url","content":"https://www.srizon.com/hacker-news"}],["$","meta","7",{"property":"og:type","content":"website"}],["$","meta","8",{"name":"twitter:card","content":"summary"}],["$","meta","9",{"name":"twitter:title","content":"Hacker News Reader"}],["$","meta","10",{"name":"twitter:description","content":"A fast, clean Hacker News reader. Top, new, best, Ask and Show HN, collapsible comment threads, new-comment highlights, search, and saved stories. No account needed."}]]