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Does Angular have a future?

  1. Google is the main corporate sponsor
  2. Google is funding both Angular development and Flutter development
  3. The Flutter team keeps throwing serious effort behind their web deployment target. It's not at 100% yet, but they're getting there.
  4. Google internally saw returns from migrating cross-platform UIs to Flutter
  5. Google is well-known for being trigger-happy on cancelling projects

Pure speculation, but what are the odds that Google starts to transition off Angular, thus killing Angular? And therefore, why should people start new projects on Angular?

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Every project in google uses angular. Probably the most commonly used tech inside Google is Angular. So rest assured that Angular will be there forever. On the other hand I doubt flutter's future, mainly due to its reliance on Dart, Dart was extremely hated inside Google few years ago. There was even AngularDart at some point.

The entire Google Ads frontend is written in AngularDart. Dart should be around for a while.

Google Ads is the reason why Dart was still around when Flutter came to be in first place.

After Dart's failure, Google Ads had just migrated from GWT into AngularDart, they weren't going to go through yet another rewrite, thus they rescued Dart from being fully rampeddown.

It is also the reason why AngularDart stayed around, when the Angular team decided to adopt TypeScript.

Correct. I do believe the Dart team is fully under the ads org as a result of that, or at least, was for a while.

non-sense, very tiny piece was in Dart ever. (top menu was written in Dart and thrown away as soon as angular came)

Total non-sense. 0% of Google Ads is in Dart/AngularDart there was 0.00000001% of Google Ads frontend was in Dart many many years ago.

I mean, I worked on Google Ads from 2017 to 2020… I’m not sure what you’re basing your comments on.

doesn't looks like really you did. :)

Every verb googlers use start with 'f' when they talk about Dart/AngularDart.

Dart itself has also made a huge amount of progress in the last 2-3 years and are days away from probably their most significant upgrade ever.

Dart is at this stage actually a damned good language. Miles in front of TypeScript for example.

Simple example here looking at Mixins (a fairly basic pattern to describe any kind of a “is-a” rather than a “has-a” relationship in OOP).

Here’s TypeScript

https://media.infosec.exchange/infosecmediaeu/media_attachme...

Here’s Dart

https://media.infosec.exchange/infosecmediaeu/media_attachme...

When Dart finally gets around to releasing their updated web and JS interop support later this year it is almost certainly about to become my new default there too.

AFAIK Flutter still isn't a web development technology - the browser becomes a drawing surface for uncomfortable UX flutterisms.

IMHO - Flutter is the spiritual successor to Adobe Air, just as Dart is the spiritual successor to EcmaScript 4 (two ES4 mentions in one day!)

correct.

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