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American democracy remains strong. Turns out that if you try to subvert it, the law will ram you like a trailer.

America's democracy was subverted loooong ago, its called Wall Street...they figured it out - when you write the laws, you don't need to worry about breaking the law

but keep thinking you are standing guard arresting some rednecks

keep your credit score up! compliance is important

the system is so thoroughly subverted that yes, voting is a waste of time...its amusing to watch the lemmings put the little "I Voted!!" sticker on their shirts like it matters...

This is cynical nonsense. Sure, Wall Street is so in charge that government policies of recent years have contributed to a wide slump in the markets. Why didn't they use that control to benefit themselves?

Sure, there's corruption in Wall Street. But if you believe they write the laws, then I have some penny stocks and SPACs from Chamath Palihapitiya to sell you.

The foot soldiers are getting rammed by the law. Yet, the generals are still walking free. The insurrectionist leader is running for President again and getting interviewed by CNN. Democracy is still under threat.

I don't necessarily disagree with you but on the other hand, we gotta start somewhere, and why not with the low hanging fruit?

Yes, but then again… it’s 2023, and this happened in 2021 in broad daylight, in front of us all. We had an impeachment which proved the point, a bipartisan investigation that proved the point — Donald Trump was responsible for Jan 6. Now it’s in the hands of a special counsel who I hope will do his duty, but so many have withered before.

I guess my point is, going after the low hanging fruit is all the criminal justice system is able to do. I look forward to the day my mind is changed.

Ultimately it'll happen if there's enough evidence to prosecute. I think one thing we're learning as a democracy is that the law has to be applied fairly to everyone. Just think about how damning the invasion of Iraq has been. It would be a totally different narrative if Bush and co. were properly investigated for their role in potentially lying about the invasion. The issue is that these lessons move at the speed of democracy, which is quite slow, and it's fundamentally a political process at that. Therefore, it's up to voters and that takes time and access to information. On the other hand, I'm not aware of a better way to do things.

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