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I can't wait for the day I can make photo-realistic full length movies with spoken dialogue and different camera effects entirely using an AI-generation / AI-enhanced tool. I have a feeling those days are coming soon.

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I don't mean to be flippant, and I wish you the best of luck in your creative endeavors, but I think the emergence of this sort of functionality will solidify the role of professional artists in our society. If you compare the work of art school freshmen with art school seniors, it's pretty apparent that using tools to physically create media is a pretty small part of what they learn.

And they've been drilled by experienced creative professionals full-time for four years. Many of the creative controls these generators abstract away are the most consequential, and they will never be more than an amalgam of what they've already seen. Smooth? Sure. Polished? Yes. Visually striking? Absolutely. Will every detail be considered, reconsidered, pored over, lightly massaged and then reconsidered by a team of people who've dedicated their professional lives to using images to elicit precisely crafted emotional responses in people? No.

That said, SyFy Originals and Hallmark Channel movies will probably operate much differently than they do now.

This seems like a terrible future

Why?

Movies to me are an art of thoughtful composure. A deliberate creation. Nothing seems more soulless and boring to me then some generated sludge born out of an AIs unconscious peephole view of the human experience.

What if I want a tool that will help me with my own creativity? I never said I wanted randomly generated AI art. I just want a tool that will help me create when I'm not a cinematographer, actor, editor, or any of those things. Why can't I have the augmented intelligence assistance I'm looking for? Not sure I understand this perspective on technology and tools.

I’m all for tools. I must of misinterpreted your post

What if it's really, really good and isn't boring, though? And feels soulful?

In which I can make my own movies? I don't have the technical capability but I have the interest, why would it be terrible for me to have tools at my disposal that can take my creative interests and make them a reality? I'm not suggesting all films be made like this. I just want tools that I can use, myself to make something that I would enjoy and perhaps others might enjoy as well.

There's potential, sure, but it won't make everyone into a filmmaker just like Microsoft Word didn't make everyone into an author and Photoshop didn't make everyone an artist.

You are arguing against a point no one made.

I’m all for tools to empower deliberate creation. An end to end AI generated movie, while intriguing to see what it might think up, falls flat to me. What is the point of watching it other than fascination. There is no conscious decision, direction. Merely a recycled reflection of past input.

It's fascinating to me how ~80% of the population of the atheist-dominated parts of the Internet seem to have found religion as soon as they started thinking about the implications of AI passing the Turing test in varying degrees in the present and near future.

Here's what I'd like. I have an idea for a script. I have a story line, with an arc, and a real compelling story. I have absolutely no skills for camera work, editing, directing, production, lighting, audio, any of that. So basically, without a cast, crew, and skills I can't make my idea for a film happen. This is where I'd like the assistance of tools that can help me make my film idea a reality. I don't want algorithmically generated movies with random and disconnected plot lines. i just want tools to help me achieve my goals when I don't have the tools or skills available. Isn't that what technology should be all about?

2027, Netflix has regressed to an Amazon-like platform where each movie search yields a long list of movies "fulfilled by netflix" made by lkmmfffrrx movie store, with 100% positive feedback.

LKMMFFFRRX Movie Studios presents FOLGRISTCHI

【Long running times. Over 90 minutes】

【Many audio tracks. Choose cinematic or directors talking】

【Best movie for 2027】

【Vibrant colors make it lifelike】

I think the CEO of Runway said he believes that is only 2 years away on a podcast. It is already starting to look promising: https://twitter.com/IXITimmyIXI/status/1649242592876412928

Probably only two more papers down the line... maybe a year, maybe two. But like anything new it'll be expensive at first.

My prediction is that within 20 years we'll be making full length high quality movies, automatically. Everyone will be a production house, in a of themselves. You'll subscribe to people's individual streams of movies like we subscribe to netflix.

I'd never really considered it before, but people replacing a large portion of their media consumption with self-made media could buttress, if not accelerate the echo chamber effect.

I think people would consume less media if they could make their own. I know I care less for things I can make myself. When you have a nagging feeling you could always go back and improve the thing you'll start noticing each imperfection then get bored after a hour of tweaking

Out of curiosity, do you already make films without the use of AI? And if not, why?

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