A Hacker School That Helps Solve Silicon Valley's Hiring Problem - Hackruiter
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In economics, supply = demand. There's never a surplus. there's never a shortage. If you want more engineers, raise wages. They will come. If you don't want to raise wages, then you really didn't want them. Saying there's an engineering shortage is like saying there's a hamburger shortage because I don't want to pay more than 25 cents for a hamburger. If I pay $5, I could get a nice hamburger .and ... ta da ... end of "the great hamburger shortage" in this case.
Silicon Valley has the wealthiest people in the world and is a very expensive place to live. Engineering careers are quite short and living in an efficiency and washed up at 38 is not as inviting as our "we need more workers" mantra repeaters would have us beleive.
If they raise wages, they'll get what they want. Another alternative of those giant visionary West Coast capventure brains is use the principle of "capital mobility": just move the capital to where the labor is cheap. Not very hard, folks.
Has nothing to do with supply and demand or anything else.
Or famous Jason Calacanis blow hard likes to claim they do not want to work..that does not work either..
what works is transparency about at what funding stage you are at to the potential employee..
I don't get it.
"more workers" isn't the only problem.
And, even if it is, do those other people have enough of the relevant workers?
I agree wages should increase. There are some signs that's happening already, and I hope it continues.
To be honest, we're much more excited about the education side of things, but the press seems to focus largely on the recruiting and hiring angle. For us, our current referral setup is a fortuitous model that lets us continue experimenting and growing the school, but it's a means to an end and not the end itself.
But I think you've taken it too far by defining "shortage" in such a way that it's impossible. If I said "A profitable company with sane hours is having trouble finding high-quality engineers at $120k+ a year" it's a little more reasonable to say, "Hmm, maybe that means that there's a 'shortage' of good engineers, in the sense that society and the economy as a whole would benefit from having more talented engineers." Just saying "look elsewhere" or "pay more" completely sidesteps the whole point, which is that where there's a "shortage" there's an obvious opportunity to profitably address it in a way that benefits the economy and society.
To use your analogy, if the beef supply was constrained such that the cheapest hamburger was $100, would you say, "There's no shortage: supply and demand have met at a price of $100?" Or would you say, "Wow, hamburger prices increased by like 20x, there's a shortage of hamburgers?" I think most people would say the latter; the former simply isn't a useful definition of the word "shortage." It means that relative to some general idea of "normal" (as defined by previous conditions, or conditions in related markets), the market seems distorted by a lack of supply.
In either case, saying there's a "shortage" or a "glut" isn't saying anything about supply and demand, it's implying some sort of course of action that you should take: i.e. go study engineering (yourself) or promote engineering schools (as a society), or go study something else/promote other types of skills.
I'm not arguing over market economics, I'm arguing that just because supply and demand work like that it doesn't mean you can just dismiss anyone who talks of there being a "shortage."
1. Our goal is to help people who love programming become even better programmers. We don't aim directly for employability or hiring.
2. We explicitly don't focus on web apps, prototypes, or products. Instead, most of the code people write at Hacker School is code for other programmers, e.g., frameworks, libraries, command-line utilities, etc. People at Hacker School work on projects that are technically interesting and one step beyond their current skill level.
3. Hacker School is three months, not a couple weeks. And we don't think people can become great hackers in three months. We do, however, think people can improve dramatically in that time if that's their primary focus and they're surrounded by smart, motivated and intellectually curious people who also love coding and want to grow.
I hope to see you apply to a future batch!
For background: I'm a Canadian software engineering graduate, I'm working towards my P.Eng. and have a IEEE Computer Society certification.
What sort of "shortage" does Silicon Valley have? tosseraccount's post leans more towards the idea that there is this huge disconnect between available worker's expectations and potential employer's expectations. Am I lead to believe there is this gap with two groups of people staring at each other?
When I graduated one of my profs dropped an offer for me to apply to somewhere in California. I had already accepted a position with a place that I wanted to work at locally because I was not really willing to move out of my country for something that was very sudden and - seemingly - insecure as far as job security goes. With posts like these it makes me believe that his offer was more legitamate than I had given it at the time.
Is the Silicon Valley hub really desperate for engineers? This peaks my interest in the sense of possibly regaining contact with him to see what he has to pitch.
Yes, Silicon Valley is desperate for engineers. However, Silicon Valley is desperate for engineers who are in the 0.1% of the engineer population in terms of intellect, motivation, adaptability, etc.
These are hard to find, first of all because it's 0.1% of the population (so it just boils down to a numbers game), and second of all because often these individuals will rather work on their own thing rather then work under someone else's orders.
If you have the potential of a John Resig, Ben Kamens, or Craig Silverstein, you won't have any trouble finding a job, and you'll have every startup at your feet. If you're "just" an OK engineer, then SV is not going to move mountains for you, unlike what some have said.
I hope I have the opportunity to attend in a coming batch - if nothing more than to become a better hacker.