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> For anyone who isn't who cares about hanging on to old hardware, it's perfectly fine to just keep running Windows 10.

Increasingly hard to get this days, especially through official channels. Currently, Microsoft actively prevents you from getting a Win10 installer/image, by redirecting all the relevant links to Windows 11 pages.

> All those guys saying "yOuR sYStEM iS iNSeCurE!!1!1!1" are snake oil merchants wanting to sell you something.

You mean like Microsoft? Saying that the new system is more secure is equivalent to saying your old system is insecure, given everyone's insistence that you either are fully secured or not at all.

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> Increasingly hard to get this days, especially through official channels. Currently, Microsoft actively prevents you from getting a Win10 installer/image, by redirecting all the relevant links to Windows 11 pages.

Really? I used this just a few weeks ago and definitely got a Windows 10 ISO.

https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows10ISO

For reference, I searched the following on Google

> windows 10 iso

For context then, some two-three weeks ago, I wanted to upgrade my wife's perfectly good Windows 7 to a Windows 10 (mostly because Chrome has been whining for the past half a year, but also because Spotify plain old denied to start playing music until we upgrade the OS). I went for the in-place upgrade path, which involves downloading a Win10 media creator tool from Microsoft. Links to various Windows 10-related information all redirect to Windows 11 landing pages now.

Additionally, I suspected I'll need a new product key. I couldn't get that from Microsoft - every link I've managed to Google also had a redirect to Windows 11.

(In the end, I purchased an electronic license from some local software shop. Then it turned out that somehow, Microsoft considers my wife's Win7 license still valid for Win10 Pro, which is nice. I used the key to upgrade another machine, which I thought was on Pro, but actually was on Home.)

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