The Difference Between European and American Butter
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I'm surprised culturing is reduced to a single throwaway line, since it makes a huge difference in flavor: some of the heavily cultured butter brands out there are closer to cheese. If you're ever in Australia, try Pepe Saya on fresh sourdough!
I now appreciate that Lurpak is marked as 'lightly salted', which makes all the difference.
Thank you for a lifetime's dutiful service, Danish Milk Cooperative :)
As it happens, I will be in Australia for a bit next month. This is the kind of intelligence I find invaluable. One thing I like doing as a tourist is going to grocery stores to see how locals eat. What else should I be looking for? [Insert joke about Foster's here :)]
- Marmite. Not too much, just a light spread. Try it with eggs. - Eta Munchos, spicy tomato flavour (NZ based, but you may find them) - a pie from a bakery - tim tams - whitaker's chocolate - anzac biscuits
Before I had an interest in researching a healthy diet I made poor dietary choices. I don't think the good choices are always immediately obvious. I also spent about 3x my normal time in the supermarket when I first started eating healthy. If you live somewhere with few grocery options you may have to drive pretty far. When I was a kid we commuted 40-50 miles (1hr drive) to go to a better, cheaper grocery store.
But to your original point, yeah, there are a ton of bread choices in a typical supermarket and, with few exceptions, I never buy the plastic-wrapped from the major manufacturers and buy something made in-house or otherwise locally or one of the "craft" breads from some other local company.
(The price difference isn't even that huge. It looks like a loaf of Wonder bread (stereotypical American white bread) at my local supermarket is $3.50 while better breads aren't necessarily more than $5--which isn't nothing for someone pinching pennies but isn't a huge premium either.
(Also, most grocery stores here do not sell alcohol — you go to the 'bottle shop' for booze. Legal drinking age is 18.)
Don't get me wrong, you can get great coffee in Australia and they do genuinely care about it. But you can't get better coffee than you'll get by visiting a "third-wave" specialty coffee shop in any big city around the world. What you will get is a stronger helping of "our coffee is better than everyone else's" served alongside your cup. For a real sneer, if you dare, go into Melbourne coffee shop and order an Americano instead of a long black. Or maybe you'll get lucky and meet less condescending baristas there than I did. I certainly hope so.
Well put and extensively documented in this short but worthwhile snapshot:
We've opened the edgiest most exclusive cafe in the whole world - and it's always closed...
Welcome to The Closed Cafe. [1]
Aunty Donnas has a whole range of Melbourne cafe sketches too
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ChB2gn6rE4s
This one's my favorite
That's stupid, it might be impressive they know the difference, but what if I actually wanted an Americano? (Hot water added, vs espresso pulled into it in a long black.)
I'm not so snobbish as to care (and I prefer lungo anyway - long shot all brewed, no pure water added) it just seems to me if they're going to be like that then they should recognise they're different and offer both. 'Certainly sir, or if you prefer we can do a long black too' sort of thing, acknowledging that the customer may be just as snobbish/knowledgeable, but accustomed to ordering Americano because 'long black' would generally furrow eyebrows.
I do think in hindsight I may have experienced it though, in the UK - I didn't order, but my aunt or someone was told they don't do Americanos and came back with a filter coffee or something. At the time I thought they were just incompetent ('do you do espressos? Hot water?' I would have not been able to resist retorting) but now I think probably it was similar to your experience. Stupid.
Yup, your aunt got a dose of coffee snobbishness I'm afraid. The worst I've experienced recently was when several of us went into a specialty coffee shop that I'd been recommended in Saigon. All except for one ordered ordered coffee. My last friend can't handle anything with caffeine so she asked what other drinks were on the menu. There were none, no non-coffee drinks and no decaf either. Eventually we asked what the ~5 year old child on the table beside us was drinking. Babychino (foamed milk). Great, it's not on the menu but she'll have one.
They charged us $6 for the babychino, or more even (180k VND I think). When we complained they pointed out the tiny print on the bottom of the bill that there's a surcharge for anyone who doesn't drink coffee. Imagine if a bar did that.
Definitely have a VB. And Tim Tams.
Yes, as a (lapsed) amateur butter maker, I'd say this is the main difference between European butter and US butter, not the fat content. If you make your own butter with ordinary cream, it'll taste bland like US butter, irrespective of the fat content. You need to add a culture. Not just any culture, which you might get if you leave your cream out of the fridge long enough before starting, but one of the right cultures. Search for "cultured butter" on the interweb for further information.
As an aside, my personal view is that making your own butter doesn't provide anywhere near the same return on investment as making your own bread - home made butter takes ages, doesn't really taste that much better, and can cost more money, while home made bread doesn't take that long, and can taste a lot better.
Brit here; British supermarket butter isn't cultured. Most French butter isn't cultured either. Characterising european butter as cultured butter is misleading.
There is a good book called "Make the Bread, Buy the Butter" which covers what foods give the best return on time, effort, and money invested.
But philosophically, it makes a lot of sense generally. You're not going to make everything from scratch or near-scratch so it makes sense to focus on the stuff you can't readily buy or which you genuinely enjoy the making process.
I got over it in small quantities. I can eat Hershey's Kisses, which are rather tiny, and the vomit is now just an expected by-taste that works in small doses.
Any other cheap corporate garbage from last century you want to sneer at? :p
First, the traditional method doesn't use tea bags. You boil the water, add the tea leaves or tea dust, at start or end, as you prefer. Then strain, and add milk and sugar.
Iranian style tea (at least in India, as found in the few remaining Irani restaurants) is boiled for longer, and has a stronger and very distinctive taste.
In the Indian style, powdered spices like cardamom and cloves are often added. So is ginger.
This is usually called masala chai, and, for foreigners, it is not called chai tea. That would be like saying tea tea, because chai mean tea in Hindi. It is pronounced like hai.
The remnant gets mixed with a quarter cup of butter and garlic bread is made. Now I’m hungry.
Really makes you respect people who manage to make everyone happy through cooking for a living!
Many other things are just what you're used to. I spent a while trying chicken fried steak recipes with different oils and found out I liked sunflower oil the best, in terms of flavor. Many people can't stand it. It's just what you like.
De gustibus ...
Kerrygold took the gold. I keep one of the doublewide bars in this [1] butter dish on the counter. Every now and then I’ll grab a cracker and scoop off a bit. It’s so good.
Seriously?
Some things are better as ingredients than as food by itself.
Also you should definitely try drinking strait vinegar, it’s interesting.
I mean come on, if your goal is to taste test something, why wouldn’t you taste just it?
You should be doing this with every ingredient you cook with. how do you expect to know how to make good food if you don’t know how your ingredients taste?
The carotene, for anyone who doesn't know, comes from grass. There is none in corn.
One of the best butters I had lately is Vermont Creamery. Hands down, the flavor was just amazing. If you enjoy good butter and haven’t had this one then consider giving it a try.
Vital Farms gained lot of popularity because of their pasture raised eggs and now butter. I tried it and it is good. What scares me is that they are in the Houston area. There’s a reason why the cancer rates are high there. Unfortunately “organic” doesn’t mean product is free of crap. It only means crap was not used to make it grow. (Reason why organic psyllium from India can legally contain lead and still be organic).
(For international, I might still give the win to Échiré.)
What farms are in Houston at all lol?
Most of my family is from Normandy.
Now, the sane advice is that salt and fat are not bad for you, but are essential to life and enjoyment. Of course margarine and all that other artificial, substitute crap turned out to be way more detrimental to us. A good amount of fat (and carbs) causes food to taste good and also be satisfying: you can pound a package full of rice cakes, or a giant salad and not feel full, unless you accompany it with butter or oil.
Julia Childs and French people couldn't be wrong: they consume plenty of rich food and they don't have American health problems. This may be a canard, but it's true that the FDA/USDA doesn't actually advocate for consumer health; just look at the ridiculous "food group" "food pyramid" propaganda they keep sending us.
Today at home I am unapologetically natural, and I love organic food. I use organic whole un-homogenized milk. I use Kerrygold unsalted. I also use Himalayan pink salt, because table salt has no nutritional value (all the nutrition is refined away and sold to supplement companies!)
Conventional wisdom about food is often dead wrong, but if you sift through all the fad diets and bogus medical advice, you can sometimes find nuggets of truth.
> I also use Himalayan pink salt, because table salt has no nutritional value
It’s… salt. Himalayan pink salt also has no real nutritional value (it is probably lacking iodine tho), it’s just salt with inclusions of other mineral that you get in much larger quantities with regular food. Unless you literally eat large chunks of salt every day, I guess.
Pink salt is a fad/marketing thing, exactly as margarine was…
They change the flavor profile of many foods drastically.
Even though table salt is probably better for you sure to the iodine content, pink salt is just so much better for the taste buds.
https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/08/the_most_infam...
Only if you believe microplastics are harmless (you really shouldn't).
Sea salt consistently has far more plastic in it than rock salt. If I'm reading this study [0] right, it's about 10x more microplastics than rock salt, which makes sense if you think about it.
Yes, it does make sense, but that’s because micro plastics are everywhere we bother to look. In the air, in the water, in the fish, in animals, etc. However, that is no evidence that the micro plastics we get from salt are significant in any way compared to other sources, particularly considering how little of the stuff we actually eat. From an ecological point of view, getting it from the sea is much better than ripping mountains apart to extract it.
Iodine, tho, it’s something you actually need depending on where you live, so I’ll keep buying iodated salt until I move to the seaside…
I mean… it’s salt? I use it to salt stuff, I don’t eat it alone. I use moderate (normal?) amounts, mostly in dishes.
For the most part it is not a topping or something that stays unmelted on top of a very bland food… but maybe it depends on what you cook and eat.
I cannot disagree more! Iodine is an essential part of sea salt. Rock salt is bland and boring in comparison. That said, I agree that refined salt is much worse.
Naturally occurring iodine (in sea salt) does not compare in dosage to fortified (table) salt.
IIRC, fortified salt is recommended because iodine is uncommon in normal diets.
"Iodized salt in the U.S. contains 45 micrograms of iodine per gram of salt." [1]
There's no way anyone can taste that. If the iodide ion even has a distinct taste independent of its cation.
[1] https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinic-q-...
Hmm I'd check the last 'things i won't work with'.
(tangentially related: I once heard a story that there was some deficiency disease that was only diagnosed after WWII: it turns out allied officers in japanese POW camps got white, not brown, rice — and were massively affected by the disease in question while the enlisted men in the same camps were barely affected)
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/rice-disease-mystery-e...
And you know why your average American turns into an unhealthy tub of lard ?
Simple really:
1) Americans have a penchant for over-processed foods which in turn contain high-levels of "the wrong" fats and, of course, sugar (which in America is generally the horrible processed type, e.g. corn syrup) .
2) American portion sizes for one meal could feed an entire African family for a week, American portions are obscene
3) Americans are largely sedentary, and have a penchant for driving instead of walking
4) Americans have a penchant for intensive industrial farming which reduces the quality of the raw ingredient
Now, you may choose to try to argue over point (4) if you feel you must be patriotic and defend US agriculture. But points (1)–(3) are, regrettably hard truths.It's not rocket science.
Eat Less. Eat Better. Do Some Exercise. Your body will thank you.
There is no French miracle, it's just that we're lagging a bit with the US (usually 10 or 20 years depending on the matter).
I would say that in France (and Europe generally) they are only true as you (unfortunately) move down the socio-economic scale.
My experience of Europe is that people who can afford it generally do eat well.
As for the driving, I'm not sure I agree. For a start, most US cities barely have any public transport, which automatically pushes people to get in the car (either due to laziness or due to distance). Meanwhile in Europe there are normally plentiful public transport options except for the countryside.
Where I'm from if you have the choice you avoid public transport because it's not very practical: buses are crowded and trains aren't flexible enough.
Overcrowded busses and trains are pretty strong indicator they’re doing something right.
In the US a “frequent” train service is every hour. In Europe a frequent train service is every 20min. In a major EU city, it’s every 90 seconds.
The US isn’t just an extreme, it’s an entirely different, almost incomparable, ballgame.
That being said, I'm in Europe and I typically cycle at least 1h per day from/to work/shopping/etc.
I'm willing to bet $100 that if you buy the pedometer and compare both commutes, the bus commute will mean that you have at least 2x the number of steps when you commute by bus versus when you commute by car (for the actual commute).
Actually no.
With a car, you get into the car outside your house, and you typically aim to park the car as close to physically possible to your destination.
With public transport, you have to walk to the nearest stop near your house, and you have to walk to your destination from the destination stop.
In addition, with trains you will have the opportunity to walk up and down stairs.
You might also walk to run errands around the local area, for example, walking to/from grocery shopping with a few bags, instead of driving to the supermarket, dumping the bags in the back of the car and only walking/carrying the limited distance between your car and the kitchen.
You might also opt to walk a slightly longer route if for example it takes you through a local park.
Huge portions of the menus you find in many “resultants” in the US simply isn’t legal in EU because quality of food is simply too low.
The UK isn’t exactly know for it culinary expertise, but returning from the US to the UK is like finding water in the desert when it come the quality of food available.
Yes, a lot of restaurants in the US will have a fair bit of filler (potatoes/rice/other vegetables) in a typical main course. But if I have fish and chips or a steak pie at a London pub, I'm probably not going to finish all the chips and other vegetables there either. I'm not sure I've just about ever looked at a main course in Europe and thought to myself "Oh, what a small portion."
And my experiences in Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, etc. are similar.
I do agree that when you get out of major cities in the US, food options can be pretty limited. Even where I live, about 50 miles outside of a major city, there are only a few places I eat at or get takeout from on anything like a regular basis and I wouldn't like to subsist on food from them 7 days a week.
But when you look towards the bottom end of the food quality scale, the bar for saleable food is just abysmally low compared to the EU. You simply can’t buy food of such poor quality here. As a consequence the average quality of food in EU is substantial better, not because the EU produces better food, but simply because it doesn’t accept the low quality stuff the US is happy to eat.
Food and cuisine in the US is highly regional, and varies immensely. In the part of the US where I currently live (Pacific Northwest), the local food is much healthier than is typical in the UK and higher quality. Portion sizes are not uniform across the US either but I would agree that on average the UK is significantly smaller.
I wouldn't characterize typical food in the UK as particularly healthy, it reminds me much more of the diet you see in the Rust Belt of the US. The relative dearth of fresh, high-quality vegetables in the UK is particularly noticeable for people that have lived on the west coast of the US (which has amazing fresh vegetables generally by global standards).
Walk around any french town, you will see crowds of tall, slender thin people with few overweight folks. Sports are a priority and source of pride, alpinism, climbing or paragliding are deemed as national sports, not some extreme fringe stuff for few adrenaline junkies. Do the same exercise randomly in US, and chances are very good what you will see will be dramatically different. That being said, there are (were at least in 2003) many faces of US - I've spent that summer working blue collar jobs in US as part of work&travel programme US was providing, and already LA was exactly as we discuss. Then I moved to rural Maine and it was night & day, I've met maybe 5 fat people in 5 weeks spent there (but its true racial diversity back there was 0, I've seen 1 black guy in 5 weeks and maybe 2-3 of asian origin, rest looked just like they arrived from Scandinavia).
But judging by various articles and feedback from friends that Maine experience was much less common than LA one, and over time even more so. US portions are simply needlessly big and often unhealthy. The logic is to eat till full, instead of just warding off hunger and enjoying few very finely tasting bites.
I like the example of the American pizza. Its not even crunchy, its more dough than anything else. Its pizza with topping, instead of the other way around.
So USA, just cut your portions in half.
By calling it a penchant, you make it sound like Americans choose these things. Most of us are held hostage by capitalist interests. Right now, it's much cheaper to eat processed foods than it is to make a similar meal from whole foods. Also, most of our towns over here in the New World were built with cars in mind. It's not generally feasible to walk places unless you live in a large city. Most people don't have 2+ hours to make a walking trip to the grocery store 5 miles away.
For 2+ years I had to bike 12 km each time I needed groceries. In fact, this was in France.
I don't get why people get so up in arms about this, especially as it's socially acceptable to take out leftovers (unlike, say, Italy). Personally, I'm a tallish, moderately active guy and I need some 3.5k-4k kcal a day, and America is the only country I've been to that I don't have to worry about being hungry after a meal out.
No you don't. Unless you're an incredibly athletic giant you definitely don't need twice as many calories as an average man.
https://www.calculator.net/bmr-calculator.html?ctype=standar...
Consider if you had a pet and you were to put out twice as much food for every feeding.
It gets even worse if you think about cultural aspects, like teaching kids to make a "happy plate", which condition them to eat everything served to them.
Sure, studies have not been able to show strong evidence of a causal link between portion size and obesity.[1][2][3]
But it's hard to ignore that American obesity rates and portion sizes have increased over the same period of time.
And, at the very least, decreasing portion size probably helps with maintaining weight. [4]
[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4224223/
[2] https://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/nutrition/pdf/portion_size_...
This is BS. I'm French, born and raised and we are plenty fat / unhealthy here.
I'm in my first week of the McDougall diet because I'm fat. That's the so called French diet that made me that way (for reference I ate fast food only 3 times since 2020, so junk food isn't responsible for my weight).
There is no magic, you can't feast like a king everyday and stay healthy. Slim people here either don't feast everyday (they have a self control I don't have) or are doing a lot of sport (or both).
But the population statistics speak for themselves. People in the US far more likely to be overweight and obese, to an extreme degree, than those in France. Given that nutrition is major component in determining a person physical wellbeing, it’s seems quite reasonable to suggest that maybe the French just eat better (on average) than their US counterparts.
None of that prevents individuals from shooting for gold on the weighing scales. But one overweight person doesn’t mean the entire country is doomed to obesity.
Butter is a key component of a quintessential American sandwich - the grilled cheese. Also, bread and butter is a midwestern dinner table staple, and buttered crackers are things I snack on, I put them out for dinner parties. Though, older people use margarine for "health reasons".
If I want tanginess on a sandwich, I reach for mustard.
I suspect most Americans use butter for the salinity rather than the flavor.
I further suspect that people butter their grilled cheese not for flavor, but for crisping the bread and building a barrier against the grease released by the melting cheese.
To YOU it is (and I agree with you). But people make it with oil or mayo as the fat. I doubt most people think of butter as a required ingredient.
[1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/f9avca/i_ate_bre...
On sandwiches we use mayonnaise since the sandwich is cold, and the eggy flavor of mayo is really tasty, and cold mayo is easy to spread but cold butter is not -- if you used regular sandwich bread it would most likely tear.
Plain room-temp bread and butter we don't eat much of, but that's because sandwich bread isn't usually very good by itself, not because of the quality of the butter.
I think the butter-with-hot-food thing might also be because we usually keep butter in the fridge. I'm aware some people keep butter at room temperature so it's spreadable, but that's never been popular in the US.
The cooking butter goes in the fridge, the eating butter stays out of the fridge.
Who takes three weeks to go through a stick of butter???
I have a Japanese Koshikawa butter knife (dubbed “I can’t believe it’s not Clutter” by a friend of mine) so even eating butter can be dealt with swiftly - similar to a butter curler.
https://japanesetaste.com/products/yoshikawa-ea-to-co-nulu-s...
Where I am from they butter every visible piece of bread but you will be hard pressed to find a single household where butter is not kept in the fridge. In fact, I'd argue that the only country that keeps butter at the room temp seems to be the UK.
You want room-temperature butter so it's spreadable. Ripped bread and dry toast are awful, and nobody says "I'll take one portion of butter out of the fridge so I can have toast in 30 minutes from now".
Salted butter will survive being left at room temperature longer than unsalted butter, because the salt helps inhibit bacterial growth. Once you've thrown away your third half-eaten pack of unsalted butter because it's gone rancid before you could finish it, you get the picture.
Even in the fridge, salted butter lives longer than unsalted. So why ever buy unsalted? Because in baking, salt kills your yeast. Even if yeast isn't involved, you usually don't want salty cakes, muffins, pastry, etc.
Hence unsalted butter in the fridge for baking while salted butter for eating on the counter-top.
I think we ended up settling for imported (Kerrigold?) butter that we knew from Germany…
Here’s a few I could find from a quick search: https://www.albertsons.com/shop/product-details.960493010.ht...
https://www.albertsons.com/shop/product-details.960047103.ht...
https://www.albertsons.com/shop/product-details.138250183.ht...
This Reddit post says the natural “flavoring” is lactic acid to replace salt as the preservative, but obviously you can’t be sure with that labeling:
https://old.reddit.com/r/AskCulinary/comments/26q208/natural...
But I see the Kerrygold equivalent, which is also sold in US stores doesn’t have this.
The USDA regulates the appearance and flavor of butter. They employ a bunch of professional butter tasters for this purpose. Perhaps something similar is going on with the smell.
I was pretty shocked when I looked up the standards for butter grading and learned that they don't serve any safety-related purpose. How do I conceivably derive any benefit from a label that says "in the opinion of the United States government, this butter is more visually appealing than other similar butters"?
Pour a cup or two of heavy cream in the blender. Add a tspn or so of salt, and blend it on med. it’ll turn to whipped cream and then chunk into butter. Let it run for a minute or two more as the liquid co to yes to separate from the butter.
Scoop the butter into a non fuzzy towel or a few layers of cheesecloth and squeeze the remaining liquid out. Spread on hot bread or grab a spoon.
It involves baking heavy cream at a low temp in the oven for 12 hours, then chilling it and scooping up the dense layer on top. Tastes absolutely marvelous.
https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/257734/chef-johns-clotted-...
In Russian cuisine, we do something similar with milk called топленое молоко. (I guess the best translation would be “baked milk”?) After hours in the oven, the milk gets infused with a deep caramel flavor.
Irish butter: a little salt.
French butter: more salt
Bretagne butter: crunchy salt crystals.
Apparently it's really a local thing because I have never been able to find butter with salt crystals from anywhere else, to my dismay since I haven't lived there for a long time (but I'm close enough to France that I can still get my butter there).
Great article btw that explained why butter in the US was so tasteless when I tried it. (Btw, butter I tried in Italy or Spain has the same problems)
AKA proper butter.
Related, one of my best memories related to butter, and a genuine good memory all around, was when my grandma was asking me to make butter while she was busy doing some other stuff around the house. It was easy enough and she knew that even city-boy me couldn't mess that simple thing up. It was very similar to what this guy is doing in this video [1]
try a bordier butter and come back telling me kerrygold is better.
Very rich and creamy
This is key. If you really look, you can find gems pretty much everywhere even when the standard stuff in supermarkets is terrible. Good stuff in supermarkets is an indication of what local people value overall, so it is interesting from a cultural perspective. However, it is not an accurate view of what local producers can do.
If the only other option was store brand supermarket butter, I would choose Kerrygold, but not when there is a local alternative.
I tried for a long time to find it in LA but no luck. Sure you can find the boxy President butter but it is not the same.
To avoid this I buy normal butter.
see https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/food-and-wine/food-tren...
So it was off to search for small-dairy/imported higher-fat butter.
Lately, BIG Canadian butter companies have entered the higher-fat butter market, https://www.gaylea.com/products/specialty-butters/bakers-gol...
Maybe I'm an uncultured barbarian, but... the difference is not nearly as large as the comments here seem to suggest. I can taste the difference, but I have to think about it. And the difference honestly seems small enough that I'm not sure I'd successfully distinguish them in a blind test.
Am I missing something?
Also, ghee! Also cultured butter!
So many great butter and butter-adjacent products out there …
As an aside it’s always perplexed me why we talk about the fat content of butter when it’s the water that’s playing the role of modifying taste, texture, and steam generating potential. It’s like talking about the water content of wine being 88% when you’re really interested in the other half of the equation — the alcohol content!
KerryGold is Irish. Lurpak is Danish. And Arla ( which owns Lurpak ) is also Danish. Apart from let say Tesco Butter, which brand is actually British?
Though apparently Anchor is now produced in the UK for the UK market.
> In the United Kingdom, Anchor block butter was imported from New Zealand until August 2012 when Arla Foods UK, the British licensee, transferred production to a local factory at Westbury, Wiltshire, using British cream.[6]
OH Yes. But if I remember correctly it wasn't as good as Lurpak or KerryGold. Sometimes I just wish British Product work a little harder on Export.
Agriculture is only 0.7% of Britain's economy compared to 5.7% in New Zealand, 4.5% in Denmark, and 1.2% in Ireland (though Irish GDP in reality maybe 40% lower since multinationals tend to report income there for tax benefits, so 2% may be a better estimate.)
Ireland’s very low corporate tax rate makes it attractive for multinational companies to structure their operations so that earnings are booked in the country even though little in the way of work is done there (perhaps through intellectual property charges.) This is only viable for a small country like Ireland because it can attract a proportionately larger amount of earnings with its low tax rate.
So, 88% + 50% = 'the equation'. Would this be where we get those fascinating units of measure such as 'the tipple', etc?
From their web-site
https://www.laiterie-legall.fr/nos-collections/?lang=en#beur...:
"Grand Cru butters
These butters are produced exclusively using unpasteurised raw creams.
They are more fragile and do not keep as long. These are the most flavoursome butters.
Churned butter made with raw milk undergoes only a little heat treatment.
This gives it an authentic taste that is even more pronounced than a traditional churn"
Actual butter is the kind that comes wrapped in foil or paper. It's a little harder to spread but you just have to knead it with the flat of a knife against the edge of a plate to soften it up.
Hmm. Common supermarket butter here is either 65% or 80%. Most people go for the 65% because ... it's less fat.
I'm not into fancy butter that may indeed be 82-90% though. But I'm pretty sure the EU allows less fatty products to be labeled "butter".
In the US, I get "unsalted" butter, sometimes recommended for dessert cooking, and sense that it has a little more flavor than salted butter, maybe is a little closer to French sour cream butter.
Australian butter is great. But I still love beurre d'isigny and lurpak unsalted from time to time.
Pepe Saya is overblown.
Irish cows live outside and are fed on grass (what a concept!), and the difference in taste, texture, color and ethics is too large to ignore.
I wouldn't mix in "ethics" here, but the rest is true. Butter tastes good.
We love our cows and they live good long lives on our hills and meadows overlooking the sea. No regular farmer i know would ever do anything you said in your message.
For the rest, unfortunately, as any mammal, cows only start producing milk when they become pregnant, and then stop later. Since feeding and raising the calves are more expensive than selling them for their meat, they rather do that on bigger / profit optimized farms. This procedure is hard to be thought of ethical.
Other farms also keep a breed that was already "genetically engineered" to simply produce more milk (called diary cows/diary cattle). Probably less extreme, ethically still challengable.
I live in Switzerland and this is one of the hot topics w.r.t. animal exploitation / sustainable farming and food production.
So next time you find yourself in the unlucky situation you have to eat someone other's / mass produced diary product, you might want to take this into consideration. Solution? Not yet, to my knowledge. Systematic problems would need systematic solution.
Ethics is not an all-or-nothing proposition. I think the idea that ethics doesn't come into this until you're approaching Jainist levels of respect for life is not just wrong, but counter-productive.
If you're going to eat butter, is it not inarguably better to get it from cows that could go outside and enjoy nature and eat grass; rather than cows that were subject to factory farming?
Would it be better again to be vegan? Sure; no argument there...
But the difference between the horrors of factory farming versus the much milder horrors of traditional farming is vast.
It's honestly quite surprising to me that anyone (other than a big agri PR goon) would take issue with pointing out the quality of the farmed animal's life as an ethical concern.
On the other hand.. it's blocking access to feta cheese to all of Europe. Feta cheese only keeps for maybe a day and there's no efficient way to get it from Greece to European supermarkets before it's turned. Now that we finally have super fresh food in our supermarkets, feta cheese stands out in that it's simply impossible to get fresh outside of Greece.
You can eat myzithra the day you make feta, myzithra being a whey cheese that is traditionally made with the whey left over from making feta, and typically served at the dinner table of the cheesemaker's family. Now, fresh myzithra is a heavenly thing to eat and most people indeed will not be able to experience it, until they have the necessary connections to a handsome and intelligent Greek cheesemaker :P But you can buy even myzithra at the supermarket, thanks to the wonders of modern refrigeration technology.
Why are you saying that feta must be eaten fresh? I think you're mixing it up with myzithra, or some other cheese that's usually eaten fresh. Myzithra, or anthotyro, look very much like feta, and even have similar taste, since they're made from the same milk, and (if you make it the traditional way) by the same person as the feta.
I'll try and find Myzithra or Anthotyro next time I'm in Greece!
Edit: it sounds dumb since it was just a gyros, but this gyros was so legendary I'm still thinking about it ten years later, and I've been to Greece multiple times since then, though never again to Athens.
Of course they never taste the same, as they were made with milk not produced in greece, and without the generations of tradition and knowledge. Hence why the PDO makes perfect sense.
In the US they sell sawdust and call it parmigiano. This is a disgrace.
I'm sorry but that is not right. I'm Greek and I make cheese, although feta is not my specialty. Feta can last for weeks in the refrigerator, and it can be aged for a year or more before it is sent to market. Perhaps you are thinking of a different Greek cheese? There are some varieties of anthotyro (a whey cheese, made as a byproduct of making feta and other Greek cheeses) that do not last very long. But, the general rule is that with modern refrigeration technology most cheese, from most countries, can travel around Europe without trouble.
"Fresh" feta is also a bit of a misconception. Traditionally, feta is aged in wooden barrels, in 18 degrees Celsius. In modern days, market forces limit the aging period to the absolute minimum of three months, but you can still find plenty of traditional producers who age their feta for a lot longer. When we're talking about cheese, "fresh" refers more to the taste and organoleptic characteristics of the product, rather than how soon it is consumed after production. So three-month old feta cheese will often be referred to as "fresh" even if it's ... three months old.
In my understanding, what really blocked "access to feta cheese to all of Europe" was, for a long time, the production of cheese called "feta" by French, German and Danish companies, who made "feta" with cheap, industrially bred cow's milk, until the PDO for Greek feta was established. Those inferior "feta" cheeses confused European consumers, for whom after all feta is not a tradition and they can't be expected to know what feta is supposed to be like, and contrived to keep the real stuff out of the European market.
Of course, if you ask me, the kind of fully PDO feta that can be found in most European markets today is not much better than the cow's milk "feta" made by those non-Greek producers, even if it's made in Greece and while (nominally) respecting the PDO regulations, but that's another, and vary painful discussion. Suffice it to say that adulteration of milk for feta with cow's milk bought in the cheap from other Balkan countries is a thing.
I do the same but generalize a little and have: 2/3 cup red wine vinegar. 2 cups olive oil. 1/3 cup Dijon mustard (adds flavor and keeps the oil and vinegar from separating, i.e., acts like an emulsifier). 1 T (tablespoon) minced garlic. 1 T Worcestershire sauce. 1/4 cup bottled, minced, dried Parsley. Some salt and pepper.
Uh, for the red wine vinegar and olive oil, I just buy the cheapest, in ~1 gallon jugs.
I don't bother to refrigerate it.
1.5 t (teaspoon) on toast is good!
Right, it's vinegar/oil ratio 1/3, traditional.
Right, some French cooking sources would say it's a version of Sauce Vinaigrette.
And as I recall from an old story about California, might add crushed anchovies and an egg and serve it over Romaine lettuce with Parmesan cheese and toast cubes (croutons with the vinaigrette). Artichoke hearts are another possible addition.
For example pasta: boil, add olive-oil + salt & pepper. Or soup: boil onions, carrots & potatoes + oil. I like these basics.
At a restaurant supply house, get a good 16 quart pot, heavy stainless steel with a 3-layer bottom and a lid.
Get ~1 kg of red potatoes, rinse, dry, cut into bite-sized pieces, place in a large cast iron frying pan, add ~1 cup olive oil. Add some pepper. Toss, place uncovered in 450 F oven for 40 minutes, toss, cook another 20 minutes, drain the oil, place the cooked potatoes in the pot.
Make dice from ~1500 kg of yellow globe onions, place in the cast iron pan, add the oil (should be ~1 cup), place over medium heat, occasionally stir.
When the onions have given up much of their water as steam and started to brown, drain out the oil and add the cooked onions to the pot.
Add ~1 kg celery.
Add ~500 g of the white part of some leeks.
Add ~30 ounces of carrots (thus, completing the trilogy), peas, green beans, corn, all canned, with their liquid.
Add 4 pounds (two packages, each 2 pounds) of Walmart's frozen peas carrots, beans, and corn or 5 pounds of Bird's Eye's version.
Add ~500 kg of green cabbage, cut to eating size.
Add two cans of crushed tomatoes, about 794 g per can.
Add
1 cup parsley
1/2 cup Thyme
1/2 cup Basil
1/2 cup minced garlic
1/2 cup Chicken Base
Stir the pot.
Might add ~1 or 2 quarts of water.
Add cover.
Over medium heat, with occasional stirring to make the temperature relatively uniform, bring to ~200 F.
Done. Now have ~14 quarts of soup. If need to freeze the soup, use 2 quart plastic containers. The soup freezes well. About 20 ounces make a filling meal and has about ~250 C.
For eating 20 ounces, maybe add some salt, Worcestershire sauce, and hot sauce (say, 20 g of each). Might serve with toast, and dip the toast in the soup.
The country of origin regulations would apply though - does it say very openly "made in Germany" on the packet? If not then it would likely fall foul of those rules.
No it doesn't. That's why I was disappointed when I found out!
Something called "Irish Butter" would have to be labeled as coming from elsewhere if it wasn't Ireland in order to comply.
Now what really blows my mind is to learn that for some people, more fat is better.
I haven't tasted butter since I was a kid, some 25+ years ago. Maybe now I would find the _flavor_ delicious (doubt it) but so what? There's many things which might be delicious that I don't to put in my body.
EDIT: I'm European living in the USA - seems relevant to this thread.
Try some butter on toast if it's been that long! I'm sure you'll enjoy it to some degree :-)
Once, in Italy, my family was served a straight up chunk of lamb fat. My dad took one for the team and gulped it. I was grateful at the time, but later in life I discovered pork shoulder, with its drippy cracklin... and now I wish I could go back to that little albergo and try their lamb fat.