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> gmail is fairly good at blocking it

This has been getting consistently worse over the last few years, in my experience. At least on the user end, i.e. far more false negatives getting through.

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True in my experience. Doubly so when dealing with foreign languages. I run a pretty international business with a lot of different email distributions. It's actually the spam filter in Google Groups that seems to constantly get tripped up with non-English, and in particular non-Latin, characters in emails. It puts far more of them into spam than it should.

I noticed a correlation between the volume of spam I'm receiving to my spam folder, and the increase in false negative arriving in my inbox. Spam volume is increasing in my experience.

I think it's been true for a long time that most of the spam doesn't hit your spam folder either, so this is not the signal you suggest. It could mean more false positives at a lower layer though.

I also monitor email at a network infrastructural level via CloudFlare for the domains, and the volume has definitely increased overall, quite significantly, including on domains belonging to clients. But yes, the amount that actually ends up in the spam folder itself is far lower than what actually gets sent to us.

There's definitely an uptick in forgeries, which is also probably why Google has started strictly enforcing the existence of SPF or DKIM even without DMARC.

plus it doesn't seem to tune. no matter how many times i mark steam or fedex emails as not-spam, i just have to check there every now and again these days.

That's a really common form of spam, so it's probably dragging legitimate ones into the same bin.

yep. It's a war between anti-spam and spam, and email standards themselves protect the spammers so ... yeah, this is not surprising.

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