When people brought Dean up Timnit came up as something to consider, it’s interesting to see how all anyone has to say in these threads is reverence towards him. People should try to see the whole picture.
When people brought Dean up Timnit came up as something to consider, it’s interesting to see how all anyone has to say in these threads is reverence towards him. People should try to see the whole picture.
https://twitter.com/strubell/status/1634164078691098625?lang...
The thing is if David Patterson and Jeff Dean think your numbers for the energy cost of machine learning might be wrong, then you are probably wrong. These ML meta-researchers are not practitioners and appear to have no idea what they are talking about. Keeping a person like Timnit or Strubell on staff seems like it costs more than its worth.
Timnit is ex-Google, but very much not ex-ML ethics (fouded Distributed AI Research Institute focussed on the field in late 2021). Very much also true of Margaret Mitchell, who has been at Hugging Face since 2021.
To my knowledge Dean was essentially doing post-hoc damage control for what one of the middle managers in his org did. Even if they did want Timnit gone (as others mention, you are getting only one side of the story in media) they did it in a bad way, for sure. At the same time I don’t think one botched firing diminishes decades of achievements from a legitimately kind person.