Not the OP, but the podcast opens with a pull-quote of sorts (spoken by the host) about how LLMs, for the first time, allow people to program via natural language. This is an exaggeration, but not much of one. I've generated usable Python code with ChatGPT, for example.

I think it's important to note that the whole point of having an opening like this is to intrigue you into listening to the podcast. So of course it's going to be a slightly shocking quote.