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Under metrics of revenue and profit there is no reason to change the CEO:

Annual Revenue of Google from 2002 to 2022: https://www.statista.com/statistics/266206/googles-annual-gl...

Annual Net Income Generated by Google from 2001 to 2015: https://www.statista.com/statistics/266472/googles-net-incom...

Under metrics of leadership and fending competition there is no reason to keep the CEO:

"Killed by Google" - https://killedby.tech/google/

"Alphabet shares dive after Google AI chatbot Bard flubs answer in ad" - https://www.reuters.com/technology/google-ai-chatbot-bard-of...

"Google Cloud still operating at a loss despite revenue, client wins" - https://www.ciodive.com/news/google-cloud-revenue-Q2-2022/62...

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Moreover, Bing, ChatGPT hasn't even made a dent in Google's search engine market share [0].

[0] https://gs.statcounter.com/search-engine-market-share

Surprising, given that ChatGPT has replaced between 50% and 75% of my searches by volume.

They get their revenue, from companies who naively believe people browse the web without Adblock. Not from people searching...

Maybe I'm missing something, but Google search (through Startpage) still is faster and more relevant for me, not to mention it does return results newer than 2021 ...

You’re an outlier.

I’m baffled to see comments like this here. To the point that I wonder if HN is basically Twitter at this point.

How can you trust a single thing the model says? I ask GPT4 for PPO code, it gives me basic actor critic with a loss with constants added. I ask it about a data filtering technique and it hallucinates concepts, libraries, papers and even companies.

It’s good as a fallback to search. Also maybe for judgement free brainstorming. But I don’t see how it can replace Google for serious queries.

Are you sure you’re not just chatting with it? Do you mind sharing your recent 10 queries with us

I found that GPT-4 is surprisingly trustworthy for my queries which are mostly programming related and focused on common libraries (nothing too esoteric).

The reason why instead of having 60 google searches in a day, I now have frequently less than 30 is that ChatGPT is much quicker when I don't exactely know how to search for something.

For instance I recently looked for an easy way to have a Rails app inline CSS when creating a Mailer template. I wasted 5 Google searches which showed various stackoverflow questions which quite didn't match what I wanted (reuse exisiting CSS from a controller). Asking this as a question to ChatGPT has directly led me to the premailer gem. In hindsight, my search terms were too generic, but ChatGPT was the expert programmer who just pointed me to the right gem based on what I was rambling about.

I am also getting turned off Stackoverflow in general now. Grasping the random adjacent question/answer of SO is often more mental work than checking if ChatGPT is hallucinating. Joel and company did well in selling SO just before ChatGPT hit.

I can see that. It can implement a basic transformer in JAX/PyTorch just fine.

Anything else it breaks

For me it's ChatGPT4, but ChatGPT (the public version that people can generally use without paying) doesn't hit the bar.

This does not include ChatGPT traffic tho :)

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