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Stop Using jQuery. Use Javascript. Use Nodejs.

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7 pointsdonbronson9 comments

Bad advice.

Coffeescript isnt a framework, it is a language.

So for your DOM manipulation you say you understand the quirks and difference between WebKit and IE7, what about the host of over rendering engines, mobile/tablet/desktop and different OS editions. I bet there exists dozen of bugs in your implementation. But thats how startups waste money I guess. If JQuery isnt your style use another abstraction library or a lightweight version of jQuery, combined with minification, gzipping or a CDN, rolling your own (at your current level) is just STUPID, risky and a waste of money. Typical NIH.

I don't follow why not to use jQuery. Because then you can roll your own library, and deal with the bugs that they've already fixed when making jQuery? And also you can implement all of the browser dependent cases yourself?

Help me out, here.

Exactly! How is reinventing the wheel going to help? The title doesn't make any sense.

There are only a handful of cross browser incompatibilities and the JQuery source is painful to read. Why _should_ one use JQuery?

Coffeescript makes it more fun to code javascript. Node.js is icing. Would be interested in production setup of Node.js

people need to actually learn javascript / the dom etc.. all this indirection (coffeescript / jquery) just dumbs people down, at very least do yourself a favour and learn (at least some) of the underlying tech first

That's very true. I remember when I thought I "knew" JS because I knew the syntax and could use jQuery. Not knowing what we don't know is the worst.

That still isn't a reason not to use jQuery.

Exactly. This comes out when interviewing front-end developers who claim they understand Javascript. Then, when I ask them to do something trivial, they pull out an 80Kb library and need to look up basic documentation to center a DIV. Bah!

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