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FWIW, as a non-pathologist with a pathologist for a father, I can almost pass the pathology boards when taken as a test in isolation. Most of these tests are very easy for professionals in their fields, and are just a Jacksonian barrier to entry. Being allowed to sit for the test is the hard part, not the test itself.

As far as I know, the exception to this is the bar exam, which GPT-4 can also pass, but that exam plays into GPT-4's strengths much more than other professional exams.

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> the exception to this is the bar exam

FWIW, this is more true for CA than most states.

What is a Jacksonian barrier to entry? I can't find the phrase "Jacksonian barrier" anywhere else on the internet except in one journal article that talks about barriers against women's participation in the public sphere in Columbia County NY during Andrew Jackson's presidency.

I may have gotten the president wrong (I was 95% sure it's named after Jackson until I Googled it), but the word "Jacksonian" was meant to refer to the addition of bureaucracy to a process to make it cost more to do it, and thus discourage people. I guess I should have said "red tape" instead...

Either it's a really obscure usage of the word or I got the president wrong.

"It's difficult to attribute the addition of bureaucracy or increased costs to a specific U.S. president, as many presidents have overseen the growth of the federal government and its bureaucracy throughout American history. However, it is worth mentioning that Lyndon B. Johnson's administration, during the 1960s, saw a significant expansion of the federal government and the creation of many new agencies and programs as part of his "Great Society" initiative. This expansion led to increased bureaucracy, which some argue made certain processes more expensive and inefficient. But it's important to note that the intentions of these initiatives were to address issues such as poverty, education, and civil rights, rather than to intentionally make processes more costly or discourage people.

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Guess Who"

Yeah, I asked ChatGPT about it too, and unsurprisingly (and unhelpfully) got answers that pointed to every president.

Hmm, which version did you ask? GPT4 went immediately to LBJ, whom I assume you had in mind originally.

That is not an instance of passing a standardized academic test through "autocompletion" or "regurgitation." It's rudimentary synthetic thought.

If it had named a different president, I could have argued with it, which is what I find especially interesting.

lmao do you have any idea how much time medical students spend studying the STEP exams(prior to them becoming P/F)

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