I think they _should_ have outgrown it by now, but I'm not sure whether I'd honestly expect it

To that point: there is a lot of boring, eye-rolling -- but totally essential -- things like requirements management that are important for engineering. "move fast and break things" makes sense when you're small and agile, but when you have a massive platform that many other individuals and business depend on you just can't do that.

Sometimes I need a wizard with multi-domain knowledge to whip up a POC system, but most of the time I need someone to ensure all of the pieces work, have specs that meet reqs, and won't cause an outage when we deploy them.

> A hacker is a kind of engineer.

I've always found the term "hacker" pretty eye-rolly.

The person was just using the term "hacker" to mean "any kind of engineer".

Software engineer isn't a protected title in the US.

My cat can legally be a software engineer - no degrees required.

haven't read the hacker manifesto yet?

Snide putdowns of other groups of people just convince me your opinions are not worth listening to.

Much, fast, maintainable: pick two.

Also at Meta. The software stack is a shit show - xplat debugging in Vscode can’t even print the variables properly. This hacker culture is good at shipping shitty stuff and getting your bonus/promo and moving on.