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a good example of russian propaganda gish gallop can be seen around their war on Ukraine (including how they manufactured consent for it):

- we invaded to de-nazify Ukraine

- we invaded because it was our land first

- we invaded because Zelenskyy is a nazi

- we invaded because NATO was threatening us

- we've never threatened NATO or other countries

- we will threaten NATO and other countries

- we never invaded at all, Ukraine attacked us first

- we invaded because we want to be a great empire again

- we invaded because Ukraine bombed Donbas after last time we invaded

- we invaded because Ukraine weapons biolabs

- okay they were just regular biolabs but they worked with Americans

- we invaded Ukraine because we are russia and we take what we want

- we invaded Ukraine because they didn't abide by the ceasefire established after we invaded Ukraine last time

- we invaded Ukraine to save the people there

- we invaded Ukraine and we will kill all the people there

etc etc etc

Something similar we witnessed when the USA invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. It seems Russians copy Americans

turns out the russians can do it just as well, if not better (see above for examples, most of which the US never said w/r/t Iraq or Afghanistan, making it uniquely russian gish gallop)

reminds me of russian propaganda from earlier years, too, when they invaded Ukraine earlier, when they genocided millions in Ukraine, etc.

it seems russia needs no bad role models, based on their own behavior

> when they invaded Ukraine earlier, when they genocided millions in Ukraine, etc.

May I label it as Western propaganda similar to what we witnessed about Saddam?

above is precisely the propaganda I spoke of, when I brought up russia's genocide of millions of Ukrainians

the claim that the Holodomor,

in which russia genocided millions of Ukrainians,

is "western propaganda",

is a common sight in russian propaganda gish gallop (and Holocaust-denial-adjacent too), thanks for demonstrating

a common next item in the gish gallop is that, okay, yeah, it did happen, but it wasn't russia for any of a number of gish galloped excuses

Citing almost a century old incident that might have happened but ducking when asking about the recent killings by West in Bosnia, Serbia, Syria, Yemen Iraq and Afghanistan and talking about what X might have done is "precisely the propaganda I spoke of, when I brought up West genocide of millions& of Muslims.

A friendly advise: Clean your own backyard first before preaching others, till then carry on living in a bubble created by Fox, CNN, BBC etc. Cheers.

thank you for again demonstrating russian propaganda gish gallop

of course it would be a waste of time to address the layers of nonsense due to Brandolini's law,

but suffice it to say that russia, who never apologized for genociding millions of Ukrainians, repeats the same gish gallop in their propaganda to distract from their war on, and latest attempted genocide of, Ukraine

thank you for again demonstrating Western propaganda gish gallop of course it would be a waste of time to address the layers of nonsense due to Brandolini's law,

but suffice it to say that West, who never apologized for genociding millions of Muslims, repeats the same gish gallop in their propaganda to distract from their war on, and attempted genocide of, Syria and Yemen

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I fixed it for you. Now I know you will have a knee jerk and get back. And.. I am not even a Russian but I do believe that it's time for the world to embrace the fact the existence of Russia and China and end of hegemony of US and Dollar.

And I will not respond you further. Keep living in the bubble inflated by Western media.

thank you for again demonstrating russian propaganda gish gallop, from multiple whataboutisms, to false equivalencies, to outright fabrications, to tu quoque fallacies, to ad hominem fallacies, all wrapped up neatly in an "I know you are but what am I"

of course it would be a waste of time to address the layers of nonsense due to Brandolini's law,

but suffice it to say that russia, who never apologized for genociding millions of Ukrainians, repeats the same gish gallop in their propaganda to distract from their war on, and latest attempted genocide of, Ukraine,

just like you are currently using it to distract from the topic at hand, which is russian propaganda

it seems, unfortunately, you have a chip on your shoulder preventing you from sticking to this topic and discussing it honestly, as do most people who repeat such russian propaganda, and all you have instead is "no u". Indeed, you were never "responding" in the first place, just complaining that people were criticizing russia and attacking them for it

this explains why russia has consistently lost UN votes in which they repeat the exact gish gallop propaganda you have, rather than defend their actions on their own merit – seems the world thinks russia should clean their own house before preaching to others about theirs

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