Crime is bad in SF, and the murder was obviously never a random homeless person type crime. Both are true and the obvious conclusion for any reasonable person.
I mean, many, many people in the original thread about this clearly didn't see things so "obviously".
>... reasonable person.
Maybe that's the takeaway, and what was lacking in spades in the immediate conversations.
However murder and aggravated assault are about 50% lower than the average in the same set of cities.