Trendy “raw water” source under bird’s nest sparks diarrheal outbreak
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About a year later he ended up in hospital dangerously sick with a mystery something.
Pretty sure he went straight back to drinking it though
Isn't that basically puddle water? Would he drink from a muddy water puddle after it rains? What's the logic here.
I'd be more concerned about lead or rubber than asphalt (but still not really that concerned).
Water falling from the sky, even if you store it in clean rain barrels, still contains impurities and pollutants that the rain passes through. https://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/drinking/private/rainwater-...
He’s after reducing eco footprint not health benefits though. Not that it matter for safety
We’ve bubble-wrapped far too much of humanity, especially in western societies.
And while everyone is entitled to their own life (excepting some of the most egregious of murderers), what we are not entitled to is artificial insulation from the consequences of our actions and decisions.
Furthermore these people aren't folks who wandered by and saw a water feature fit to slake their thirst they deliberately sought it out. They are emphatically so stupid it would actually be a shame if they had kids.
Nobody actually walks around pulling off warning labels and hoping people hurt themselves. People in general do as they did here and go to extensive efforts to keep said idiots from harming themselves, then turn around and live in a society that is worse off for having the idiots.
This is why people blow of steam by saying spiteful things on the internet. This is emphatically normal.
absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
> A study among expatriates in Nepal suggests that immunity may take up to seven years to develop—presumably in adults who avoid deliberate pathogen exposure.[18] Conversely, immunity acquired by American students while living in Mexico disappeared, in one study, as quickly as eight weeks after cessation of exposure.[19]
I suspect it's your gut flora that adapts; but it's not your DNA.
If I go hiking I will sometimes drink from a stream or spring. I know there's a risk to this and I accept it. If I'm going to be out in nature for longer I'm more likely to use a filter like a lifestraw or boil water.
I know you aren't suggesting it that way but your post made me ponder about it. If you socialize healthcare, you are automatically getting someone that says "oh no you don't, not on my dime, I'm gonna have to take care of you if something happens to you, no, no, no", which is practically a parent. It is probably a conversation that should be had. You rarely see it explored from that angle.
So what's the risk?
Apart from anything else the water's going to be too cold for bacteria.
Flowing water can still contain very harmful bacteria.
That's what I've always thought, and it seems correct, but I'm not sure why that would be the case. Flowing water is more oxygenated which should make it easier for bacteria to survive, than in a still pool of water (getting baked by the sun's UV all day).
And the trendy part is that it's not isolated to this location or these people: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/29/dining/raw-water-unfilter...
I love milk. But the first time I had it straight from the cow, it was... not what I expected.
I'll take mine filtered, homogenized and cooled down to refrigerator temperature please.
Before bottling (in glass bottles that you had to bring back) the milk would drip over some cold rollers so it wasn't cow temperature by the time it got to the milk crate in the car. It spent the rest of the week in our refrigerator and after the first night all the bottles would be cream in the top 1/3 or so of the bottle and out of this world delicious milk in the rest.
After that farm closed it took me many years to not equate the taste of "normal" store bought milk to that of water.
That's why I said homogenized -- I drink whole milk for both the flavor and the nutrition.
Also I'm in the US so I'm talking about store-bought milk you buy refrigerated and with an expiration date 10 days out. It's still quite "fresh".
Not UHT milk sold in much of the world that keeps for months unopened at room temperature. Which doesn't have the same flavor at all, although there has been some advancement there depending on the brand.
But of course, let me be clear -- at the end of the day there's no arguing with childhood memories. :) What's most valuable is the whole family experience!
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2004/07/why-is-antifreez...
I wouldn't have thought so either, but apparently someone at slate likes it.
- Intravenous
- Inhalation (for things easily aerosolized)
- Sublingual
- Everything else (including intramuscular and subcutaneous)
This is often the preferred route for oral medications that aren't too bitter for people, because it avoids stomach acids. So if the thought is that people don't want it in their bloodstream from ingestion, it's probably already there.
That doesn't even get into the concentrations. Standard water fluoride rates is on the rate of 1 ppm, whereas toothpaste is typically well over 1000 ppm. The amount of fluoride you swallow as a by-process of brushing your teeth would far outweigh what you drink in a day.
Related, my tap water kills my ferns. I have to used distilled/reverse osmosis water on them, which I also switched to after realizing this.
On the other hand, distilled water isn't necessary to maintain the purity of your bodily fluids.
Unless it's a bit chewy it just doesn't taste right to me.
Water is an essential resource. We really shouldn't be messing with it. Just deliver it to the customer as pure as possible.
We've all got fluoride stains. And the water tasted like crap because it was mixed with excessively saline water to reduce both the salt and fluoride levels to something reasonable.