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The paramilitaries I was referring to are these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Paramilitary_forces_o...

Many of these are right-wing militias that have been fighting in the Donbas since 2014. Some have been absorbed into the UA national guard.

I have never mentioned pro-Russia paramilitary groups; I think you and the other commenter got confused because I didn’t explicitly say Ukrainian paramilitary groups. (Thought it was obvious from context which side I was referring; obviously the CIA would not be supporting pro-Russian militias)

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> The paramilitaries I was referring to are these

None of those are “rebels”, which is the term you used.

> Some have been absorbed into the UA national guard.

The National Guard of Ukraine is one of the “paramilitaries” on the list you linked, so, yes, it is fair to say it has been absorbed into…itself.

> I have never mentioned pro-Russia paramilitary groups

You said “rebels”. The only rebels in Ukraine are those forces consisting of Ukrainians (as non-Ukrainians would be invaders, rather than rebels) fighting against the government of Ukraine, i.e., Russian-backed and Russian-aligned armed groups.

He also said 2014, maybe you need to reread that comment once more. Those were times when Ukraine was not clearly separated from Russia, for example most of big boys in the Government were openly pro-Russian. Ukraine have been a rebel since 1991 and the process is yet to be finished.

Boy, Ukraine have never had a proper borderline with Russian, I mean most of that border was nothing more than just demarcation sticks.

The problem is you kept saying "rebel groups". "Rebel" means that they are opposed to the government. Like the separatists.

Plus, you didn't answer the multiple times when asked to clarify.

Consider my answer [1]

Also I have vouched the top comment of this tree because I consider this point as valid.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35537017

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