This is why I suggest not giving two weeks notice when leaving a job for another.
Instead send a resignation email the morning you start at the new company.
This seems fair and reasonable given that companies are willing to pull offers.
Instead send a resignation email the morning you start at the new company.
This seems fair and reasonable given that companies are willing to pull offers.
It is also common in certain countries to either get a "reference" letter from previous employers or provide a reference about a person in email or on the phone - going back to 3 or 5 years.
And finally, we are talking about moving countries, if not continents. Maybe if you are 18 you can stop working on a Friday in country A, travel with a suitcase over the weekend and start working on Monday in country B, but as you get older, the number of people and stuff attached to you just grows... and this becomes a rather more difficult and time consuming process.
Most likely the US, where at-will employment is the norm. Companies can let you go immediately but you're "obligated" to provide an at-minimum 2 week notice.
OP is stating they don't have to give such notices, so we should change the narrative and treat them the same way we get treated.
I agree wholeheartedly with this.
Hum... If you are on the middle of your life, with all of the responsibilities of the world, this becomes more important, not less.
Get your suitcase and move there, then slowly detach your responsibilities from your previous city. Doing it beforehand just adds a lot of time when everything will break.
Yes, it's hard. The other way around is hard too, and way more risky.
Leaving without 2 weeks notice seems like a good way to incinerate your professional relationship with your outgoing manager/teammates. I guess if you would never use them for a reference anyway, that's fine, but what if you do want to use them as a reference in the future? Or is your experience that your former team didn't actually mind that you just quit one day?
If you burn your bridges on your way out, then you can never go back. What happens if your new job lets you go after a week? If you are worried about a job pulling an offer a week before you start, you should be worried about it being pulled a week after you start.
You are protecting yourself from an offer being pulled before you start by exposing yourself to extra risk if they pull the offer after you start. It seems like a poor trade.
That being said, for many roles a lack of notice for your resignation is going to have the most significant negative impact on your immediate team, manager, and coworkers. HR and the CTO will not care, but the engineers you have been sitting next to for the last few years could be put in a tight spot.
I have zero loyalty to a company, but I have loyalty to my coworkers.
If they did, an abrupt loss of an employee wouldn't put them "in a tough position"
I hope you don't die and put them in a tough position for not giving a 2 week notice beforehand.
I don’t understand your position. Any time a coworker leaves, it is hard to deal with. That doesn’t mean people shouldn’t leave or that anything is being done wrong; if someone leaving causes ZERO difficulties, then why were they employed in the first place? It shouldn’t be devastating, but it should matter when someone leaves.
I am just saying as a professional who cares about my coworkers, I want to do right by them when I leave. Just like a good company has a severance package for layoffs, a good professional will have a transition period when they leave a company. If you despise the companies you work for so much that you won’t do the smallest thing to help them when you leave, I feel very bad for you. That sounds like miserable working conditions.
I get paid good money to be a professional, and I take that responsibility seriously. I don’t think my company owns me, but the fair trade for my salary is to act like a professional, which includes giving two weeks notice when you leave.
This attitude has done me very well in my 20 year career, and I have a huge network of former coworkers and bosses who know they can trust me if they hire me, and that has lead to very good jobs for good pay and the ability to choose exactly where I work.
My position is that in the US at least we're an at-will employment country. Companies very rarely give notice of termination, it's usually on the spot. While yes if you want to give notice, go right ahead, but lets stop shaming people for treating companies the same way they treat us.
It's fine, as long as you never want to go back.