A professional couple who make over $200k combined couldn't afford a home in LA
finance.yahoo.com
finance.yahoo.com
“Where are we going to come up with this down payment? Even with the money that we make, it’s impossible to come up with 20%,” Oklobdzija says. “People don’t just have $100,000 in cash just kind of kicking it.”
Pretax income: $225k (from article)
Take home pay: $147k
Rent: $29k (from article)
Utilities, food, transportation: $18k (my estimate)
Remainder: $100,000/yr
There's your down payment. Even if they burn an extra $30k/yr on other things, they should be able to save 100k every 18 months.
You can see it in the way that people think about retirement savings. They don't think about the basic premise of - right, I need 30 grand a year for 20 years, which means I need about 600k, and then I'll invest it and hope I can match inflation.
It's super common instead for people to think - okay, I'll put x% or x a month into retirement savings, based on thinking "this is sort of how much I guess I want to afford to put in", rather than "this is going to result in my desired outcome".
Where I live (New Zealand) a place would be 4-5x their joint income.
Certainly affordable.
On the other hand they might be looking at what they pay in rent vs what they would pay for a better place. They mention $1000/month from HOA fees. It might be a case they they are just better off renting.
For a property that is quite likely not even that much better than renting. (Super market dependent — in Seattle anyways, $600k doesn’t get you even a “starter” home.)
It just doesn’t make financial sense unless the time scale is fairly long, with interest rates as high as they are.
I make a fair amount, as do my peers. I don’t find it hard to save (though student loans can require a lot of cash flow). I can live very comfortably, but that lifestyle is peanuts to what it takes to afford a home. Going to some concerts, dining out, small trips — that’s peanuts compared to the cost of ownership.
As far as I can tell, the only way for the finances to make sense in a HCOL area is 1. come into a lot of capital (stock cashout, inheritance, etc) or 2. move very far away (possibly loosing that nice job). Or 3, make a lot of other lifestyle sacrifices while still also having a well-paying job. (Edit: and I mean way more than cutting that daily coffee or yearly vacation.)
And that’s not even counting what it costs to have kids!
In my neighborhood, most 3/2 houses are $1.5mil. There are things under that amount that are toootally fine. But your definition of "fine" and someone else's? That varies.