Mobile home park residents form co-ops to save their homes
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Homelessness is always and everywhere a lack of social safety net and class problem, not a housing supply problem (although that could be one of the apparent symptoms).
And I don't exactly disagree, but surely you see how it's just slightly more complicated than that, and also how fixing the housing supply symptom (i.e., homing the homeless) would really help?
That includes the currently homeless, and also those who can't afford to live where the rest of their life says they should.
Lack of social safety nets and lack of affordable housing both come from the same root cause, too much greed combined with too little empathy. 'I got mine, time to kick the ladder off the wall.'
2. "Build more Manhattans" is easier said than done. Even petro-states with astronomical amount of money to splash around have a hard time building a "Manhattan". Dubai might be very shiny and the financial capital of the middle east, but it's no Manhattan.
Back of napkin answer:
Build bigger buildings, lots of them. All of those 'quaint' places with 2-6 story buildings? 50-60+ story sky-scrapers.
However that's probably also the answer you assumed. Yes that would change the 'character' of a place, because the only way of keeping that the same is to keep the number and type of people in a place the same. How could someone preserve an idea that directly contradicts a reality? No, there would need to be a new idea that supports the desired conditions. Hopefully a good idea that is well executed.
As another commenter said, 'more ''Manhattans''' is another way, try to replicate the sort of feel / idea at existing scale or larger in other locations.
My own comment was about the technical and physical goals a society should strive for, which are within reach, should we the people have the will to reach for them.
>There should be enough housing for everyone that wants to live in a given area, and it should be housing people would want to live in.
The hard part comes in executing, where you have to define “housing people would want to live in (which people?)” and who is in the set of “everyone” whose opinion is gathered about wanting to live in a certain area.
And I agree, although housing is the objective, it's not necessarily the solution to the problem, mainly because of how markets keep going up and space is limited. People need a way to start earning income without worrying about rent.
It's easy when you have a nebulous and noble goal, but you have to define it in terms that make sense and can be quantified and defined. Otherwise you'll just create a "Ministry for Company Fairness Contributions" filled with angry people that will abuse their powers for any number of reasons falling on the "evil/noble" scale.
But, yeah, somebody with a stronger economics background (than my undergrad degree, which I've never used professionally) would have to do some calculations on whether preventing mass corporate ownership via taxation would be a net positive for the market as a whole.
I tend to suspect it would be positive.
For example, a company in nowhere-ville develops Mr. Fusion (home edition) and needs to expand rapidly. Rents and land prices double overnight which results in the cost of labor rising which slows expansion.
There are many opportunities for rent extraction in capitalistic systems and some degree of rent and speculation are necessary to establish a market but when society allows for excessive rent taking and speculation it becomes dead weight on productive investment.
For example the “billion dollar industry” for sand that makes computer chips (https://www.wired.com/story/book-excerpt-science-of-ultra-pu...) is an example of companies with little or no investment in the technology around chips who were able to extract large sums of money simply by controlling a sand pile.
https://www.housingchoices.org.au/south-australia/common-gro... https://community.solutions/about-us/the-team/rosanne-hagger...
Traditionally, welfare housing here is/was clumped in squat, dingy homes and made for less-desirable areas with depressed pricing.
There was also a scheme (NRAS?) whereby property owners could receive a tax rebate in exchange for offering their property at below market rent. Not sure if it's still active.
"NRAS, which commenced in 2008, provides an annual financial incentive for up to 10 years to approved participants who rent dwellings to eligible people on low to moderate incomes at a rate at least 20 per cent below market rent. NRAS dwellings are not social housing–they are affordable private rental homes."
https://www.dss.gov.au/our-responsibilities/housing-support/...
Some homeless are also criminals, some are not. Some of the criminals would turn away from crime if given the proper help, some will not. Some of them will refuse help unless it is forced on them - we have as a society rejected the needed force because of rampant abuse in the past. Each situation is different. Some of them are easy to solve - most are not.
I.e crime is not a characteristic of poverty or the poor, but a specific policy failure in dealing with it.
I guess there are some demographics that don't trouble city councils (maybe even match the city council's demographics)
Mobile homes aren't great, but they beat a tent or a cardboard box. And they provide some stability compared to not having any tenant / property rights.
You might benefit from re-reading what I wrote and assume the best possible interpretation of what I wrote.
If you look at the list above you will realize that some things are contradictory - you cannot have everything no matter how rich you are. It gets worse when you start adding more desires.
Some of use have enough money to afford a nicer house than others. However when you get down to what you actually need to live a capsule is a good minimum - nice enough that if you cannot have more you still have an acceptance quality of life. However not so nice that people who could afford more refuse to contribute to society.
A safe bed could be recognized as a basic human right without leading to a "world of lazy people" moral panic.
The same people that don't want the homeless literally sleeping on their street?
I understand the problem and I will support solutions, but just saying let people live on the street in front of my house is simply not one of them.
This attitude is pervasive and subtle but important to challenge in ourselves. Homeless people are citizens, they are the public, they are residents of your city and your neighborhood. They aren't some other, external element that is transiently present. They are your neighbors.
And I am making a moral judgement against your prioritization of property values over the comfort of your living neighbors, which frankly I find obscene.
I am not saying that a home owner purchased a right to not be affected by current policies. I am saying it never was a policy to make the street or sidewalk a residence and we shouldn't make it a policy now.
it never was a policy to make the street or sidewalk a residence
That's literally the end-result of NIMBYism run rampant. If you don't want lower income housing (or homeless shelters, or drug treatment centers, or mental health case facilities) anywhere near your home, then you have to accept that there will be a population of people that need any of those things who now must go without, which then leads to homelessness, crime, etc.
The extreme outcome is walling off neighborhoods and hiring armed guards as they do in many parts of South Africa.
I owned houses for a long time. Wouldn't say a homeless person sleeping on my street would be a problem.
I eventually sold the houses, btw and sleep much better now. But I understand the Bay Area is built on status unfortunately.
I think it’s a lot less common for them to be holiday homes in the US but it’s not unheard of. My family owns a vacation condo across from what you would call vaste staaplaats and they actually look very nice. A lot of people may not know they are trailers.
Both types seem to attract interesting types of people that’s for sure.
I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who can afford to pay 30% more, quality of life is important. I should've moved already, but I'm lazy and inertia is a beast.
In your opinion, its equal or worse when compared to renting? Your coop situation sounds like my experience renting apartments.
What I did understand is that higher rent works as a filter. People with signification socialization problems usually aren't making a lot of money and can't afford high rent, so a building with high rent will filter them out. That's not to say that you'll have great neighbors there, but they probably won't throw trash out of the window or be overwhelmed by concepts like airflow or sound propagation, and they'll have at least some amount of impulse control. I'd avoid properties with government-subsidized apartments if I ever looked for an apartment again.
This is probably true. I mostly rented houses, but the few apartments were nightmares (and cheap!). In my experience, small to medium landlords were the worst. 1- or 2-unit owners are easier to deal with but (sometimes) slower to fix problems as they arise. "Mom and pop" rentals were by far the best experience all around.
I now own a house in a small city. I've noticed each street varies in quality and safety. Streets with densely packed multifamily homes have littered streets and more crime. Single family neighborhoods have less trash (none on mine) but are more likely to fall into disrepair than income producing property. I've also lived in the bad area of my city. I stayed there longer than anywhere. My landlord and neighbors were great. That street was special despite being densely packed multifamily homes.
There are many variables affecting livability. Though, I do wonder about the efficacy of modeling apartment/condo/street satisfaction. Pricing seems less like a filter, and more like a KPI representing maximization of some hidden variables (those affecting housing satisfaction).
Also, I wonder if a dollar value could be placed on "good neighbors".
The dollar value is hard to estimate. I'd pay a few hundred extra to only have neighborly neighbors, but I probably wouldn't if my budget was tighter. Would I pay 2x or 3x the price? It depends. When my one neighbor was escalating hard, I totally would've, but when he's mostly normal? Probably not.
Not dismissing your point, but there's probably also less of the bad side of landlord/owner-association overreach.
But on a personal level, would you prefer a landlord always looking for ways to raise rents, or a paranoid drunk guy hammering on your door at 2am accusing you of spying on them and yelling that they'll cut your fingers off? I'd take a rent hike to avoid that.