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about 20 years ago i asked an old commie (proper commie, with portraits of marx engels lenin proudly hung on the wall and a library to show) what he thinks of china. his response stuck with me to this day

   in china you don't have socialism. what you have in china is a market for head-nooses and western capitalists are the main customer. it's absolutely genius!

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The quote "Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them." has been attributed to various Marxists over the decades.

china seems to have put it into praxis

I’ve always enjoyed interpreting this quote as “The Marxist system is such a terrible socioeconomic system that it can’t even produce its own rope”

where i curently live the marxist economy, despite numerous short commings, promoted a healthy work life balance, unrivaled job security, and some rather high quality public housing that even today sells at a premium

Ironically though, the reason why the West gone to China for manufacturing is that people in the West wanted employment rights, minimum wage and all sort of socialist protections, but they didn't want to pay for it.

haha yep and pretended for good 30+ years that the working class no longer exists. people seem to forget that the uk was on a brink of revolution prior to thatcher outsourcing work to china. and now apparently they want to magically go back

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