Note that as a result of some llama drama associated with this change, @jart (author of this post) and @anzz1 are apparently no longer welcome as collaborators on llama.cpp: https://github.com/ggerganov/llama.cpp/pull/711#issuecomment...
Overall, these people would be better off taking their drama on Twitter or LinkedIn. ggerganov did the right thing kicking them out.
Also note the stats on GH subscribers and stuff. This is a lolcow dossier…
Events like this make me glad I don’t contribute OSS. I’ll keep my coombots proprietary.
I am not much familiar with her work except the impressive Cosmopolitan / Redbean mentioned on HN in the past. But she seems to be quite a controversial figure that is for some weird technocracy and against democracy and leftists, despite being a leader in the zucotti park protests… in short, someone who is no stranger to drama and controversy, and actively courts it:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/01/occupying-...
And like I said, you can follow the links and see the brigade discussing something else entirely.
Personally I don’t want an OSS ecosystem that banishes trans people or people who had weird proto-alt-right politics pre-Trump. If you’re gonna banish anyone, banish the ones posing existential risks to projects by their brigading against contributors they don’t like.
I am not part of the YCombinator or West Coast ecosystem, but didn't it banish gay people with weird pro-alt-right politics pre-Trump, and then supported Trump? Like, for some reason there was a movement to banish Peter Thiel: https://mashable.com/article/peter-thiel-y-combinator
How do you feel about banishing people who simply admitted to voting for Proposition 8: https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-mozilla...
If you take a look at a larger problem, you'll see that there is a lot of inconsistency with human welfare on a far larger scale.
Because this same system takes Saudi money a lot. The only moment of self-reflection came after one guy, Kashoggi, was killed: https://www.barrons.com/articles/saudi-arabia-tech-fundraisi...
But not the situation of millions of people in Yemen: https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/03/1113852 ... https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/01/andreessen-horowitz-is-now...
The US military industrial complex was largely involved in airstrikes on Yemen, as the Washington Post revealed last year: https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/20...
As a country, we ignore the Yemen war, and are told to only clutch pearls about taking money from Russia due to the Ukraine war. I imagine that YC stopped taking Yuri Milner's money a decade ago, partly because of his ties to the Kremlin, but probably it was just a natural parting of ways eventually: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15631084
Anyway, just saying ... ecosystems aren't always perfect.
Good lord, it's terrible when the peanut gallery feels like they have to comment on development practice. Why would numbers of commits be a relevant metric in an Open Source project? Of course squashed commits are easier to handle during reabses and such, and when that work can be squashed to a single "initial mmap support" commit, then that's fine.
> @jart rewrote @slaren's code, which slaren wrote first
now this is just kindergarten level of arguments
What I'd care more about is whether this issue had harmed the project in a technical way, which, unfortunately, it apparently has.
Similarly, this GH issue response to that occurrence, despite having made valid points in a reasoned manner, also held some of the same kind of "happen", in response - which is understandable, but not diffusive.
It ultimately doesn't matter who contributes, if someone truly believes in the project, they'll be just as happy to step away from it if they're affecting its momentum, even through no fault of their own or just a misunderstanding.
Momentum is important - and at an early stage like this, when vibe is building and community is forming, it can be very. I hope ggerganov continues to make these difficult decisions characteristic of clear leadership.
As for these LLaMA changes, I ran it on my machine for fun, and it worked perfectly. I wound up re-converting my models, but it doesn't take terribly long to do so even for 65B. After that, generation starts nearly instantaneously, which is very impressive. I wouldn't be surprised if there are legitimate problems with the change. Obviously people who deleted their local copy of the original model to save disk space are probably displeased, and maybe it is a massive performance reduction in some cases.
I wish I understood, and yet I fear I don't really want to know at the same time.
edit: At least in this case, it seems like it's mostly drama around attribution and unnecessary changes. Kind of sad that an otherwise really useful code change wound up being marred by probably-avoidable drama, but such is life ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Honestly, I don't have any input, I just hope everyone can resolve their gripes amicably in due time.