I don't follow. Thinking of LLMs as stochastic parrots is a viewpoint I've seen repeatedly and one that probably informs how you think about LLMs and their potential. I don't know where memes or 4chan fit into that.
Allegedly, HN is a place to hold curious conversation. What is curious in attempting to explain a comment as coming from a certain "camp"? Isn't that just going to polarise conversations and shut down any curious discussion?
> You can be in many camps at once, there is more than two camps and they don't have to be necessarily adversarial towards each other either. However, if you think that LLMs are just stochastic parrots then that probably guides a lot of other arguments and lines of thinking.
We are a long ways off from a flame war and 4chan here.
Making this sort of assumption about your interlocutor deprives the discussion of any kind of interest it would have. It's like we have seen that match before and we know what each side is going to say, so what's the point in debating anything? Everyone's convinced, everyone's stuck in their little corner, and calling each other group-names.
More to the point, it makes people reply not to each other, but to the views they assume the other person holds, which never leads to productive conversation, only to confusion and chaos.
There has to be a way to debate that doesn't involve picking an enemy to fight.