Global warming is killing Indians and Pakistanis

Not ironic at all. The Mars trilogy is hardly a utopia. Instead, it's a repudiation of our political economy. Certainly his recent Aurora is an overt criticism of terrestrial hubris which posits that future generations would, if they could, come back and punch us in the face.

Humans can't control the Earth's climate. No amount of taxes, protests, or memes are going to change it, one way or the other. It is sheer arrogance to assume we can. We are simply along for the ride. Sure, we can destroy our environments with nuclear war, China-level pollution, and strip-mining, however only to the point where it destroys us. After we're gone, it keeps going the way it has for a billion years.

Frankly? None at all. We have past the point of no return. We can try to limit the damage now but there will be damages. There is no real political will to change, both in the government and in the people. Just look at the French and their protest when they have to work a few more years because their country would collapse otherwise. Or the anger when prices of goods that were already heavily subsidized rise, such as agriculture and fossil fuels or cheap toys that have to be shipped across the planet.

People want changes, but few of them are willing to accept the personal sacrifices that come with such changes.

Developing countries without robust infrastructure and wealth will have problems. Those living in rich and powerful countries may have less comfortable lives but it is likely they won't have to worry about "living" at all. It is developing countries like those in Africa and Middle East that will bear the brunt.

The solution is simple but people need to be educated. You have to stay indoors, drink water and use air conditioning if possible.

The world is doing a piss-poor job of limiting the heating, which should be the best solution.

Realistically we're looking at mass migration in the very near future on a scale humanity has never experienced.

Move. They'll become like the Sahara now - desolate wasteland that can't support life. Ironically, the Sahara itself is greening, and large parts of the taiga and permafrost may open up to human habitation.

The biggest problem India and Pakistan will have to deal with from warming is that they depend heavily on water from the Himalayas that will be greatly diminished if we don't get warming under control.

If India and Pakistan end up fighting over declining water supplies and their nukes get involved it could become a serious problem for the rest of the world. Here's an interesting paper about that: "A regional nuclear conflict would compromise global food security" [1]. It looks at a scenario where they each hit the other with 50 nukes about the size of the one used on Hiroshima.

Here's the abstract:

> A limited nuclear war between India and Pakistan could ignite fires large enough to emit more than 5 Tg of soot into the stratosphere. Climate model simulations have shown severe resulting climate perturbations with declines in global mean temperature by 1.8 °C and precipitation by 8%, for at least 5 y. Here we evaluate impacts for the global food system. Six harmonized state-of-the-art crop models show that global caloric production from maize, wheat, rice, and soybean falls by 13 (±1)%, 11 (±8)%, 3 (±5)%, and 17 (±2)% over 5 y. Total single-year losses of 12 (±4)% quadruple the largest observed historical anomaly and exceed impacts caused by historic droughts and volcanic eruptions. Colder temperatures drive losses more than changes in precipitation and solar radiation, leading to strongest impacts in temperate regions poleward of 30°N, including the United States, Europe, and China for 10 to 15 y. Integrated food trade network analyses show that domestic reserves and global trade can largely buffer the production anomaly in the first year. Persistent multiyear losses, however, would constrain domestic food availability and propagate to the Global South, especially to food-insecure countries. By year 5, maize and wheat availability would decrease by 13% globally and by more than 20% in 71 countries with a cumulative population of 1.3 billion people. In view of increasing instability in South Asia, this study shows that a regional conflict using <1% of the worldwide nuclear arsenal could have adverse consequences for global food security unmatched in modern history.

[1] https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1919049117

I'm wondering about the prevalence and frequency of water trains, if they've increased or decreased on a long term basis, how they're funded, and if they only operate during dry seasons.

Articles and discussions about climate refugees:

https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2022/5/17/photos-waiting-f...

https://archive.is/IdkV2

https://www.brookings.edu/research/the-climate-crisis-migrat...