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> Instead, we have people jumping through hoops to deny things, and trying to provide links to disingenuously claim certain issues are not as serious as they are, or to try and falsely equivocate them to other countries like the US.

On a post about a reusable launch vehicle, you posted a irrelvant comment about how rape was endemic in India. People refuted your assertion with facts and figures.

> It's funny to see the sheer amount of people hurling insults at me, based on incorrect assumptions

So, you are not going to acknowledge your incorrect assumptions?

> There is nothing intelligent about choosing to take offense at a neutral statement, then resort to distractions and untruths, and to attempt to censor people from a discussion.

Your statement was not even remotely neutral. Please point out these untruths.

> I have no time for patriotism or tribalism. While I'm aware we don't live in a single global society, that's what I believe our ideal should be (A kind of Star Trek society), and that's what I want to work towards. Petty tribalism is very much at odds with that.

On a cost basis, India's space program is probably the most efficient in the world. So, let's give up the petty tribalism, shut down all the other space programs and redirect all that funding to ISRO. That would be the best way towards a Star Trek future.

> In any case, if my sentiment was wrong, then I would have appreciated an informative, challenging and productive discussion

And I would have appreciated an informed and well thought out comment instead of a puerile low effort one. Yet here we are.

Every post you've made here is so clealry stemming from emotion and the need to be defensive. Maybe put that aside and actually deal with facts and figures, and not perceived slights.

> People refuted your assertion with facts and figures.

No, they didn't. And I could provide a lot more links and provide a much mroe compelling argument, but despite your beliefs, I'm not trying to make India look bad and have nothing against India. Besides, my posts would just get mass downvoted no matter their credibility.

> So, you are not going to acknowledge your incorrect assumptions?

I made none, rather it's you and others making incorrect assumptions and jumpting to be defensive.

> Your statement was not even remotely neutral. Please point out these untruths.

And why would I bother to engage you in actual debate when you're being so clearly biased and emotional thorughout the thread?

> So, let's give up the petty tribalism, shut down all the other space programs and redirect all that funding to ISRO.

I don't really agree with that, but I am definitely in support or a global combined space program instead of wasted resources.

> And I would have appreciated an informed and well thought out comment instead of a puerile low effort one. Yet here we are.

That's ironic, given the low quality and guidelines violating nature of your posts. My initial comment could have led to productive discussion, but hurt feelings prevented that.

> Every post you've made here is so clealry stemming from emotion and the need to be defensive. Maybe put that aside and actually deal with facts and figures, and not perceived slights.

Are you a shrink now?

> No, they didn't.

What are these, alternative facts? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35409029

> And I could provide a lot more links and provide a much mroe compelling argument

Why didn't you do it in the first place? You refuse to put in any work into your comments, and then complain that people don't take you seriously.

> I'm not trying to make India look bad and have nothing against India

I don't think you are. I just think your worldview is informed by a hyperbolic narrative than actual facts.

> I made none, rather it's you and others making incorrect assumptions and jumpting to be defensive.

For the third time: You made a factually incorrect and entirely irrelevant comment about rape being endemic in India. You're dismissing people refuting your claim with easily found facts and figures as being defensive.

> And why would I bother to engage you in actual debate when you're being so clearly biased and emotional thorughout the thread?

So, no actual argument but just crying the victim?

> My initial comment could have led to productive discussion,

Your comment was:

> It's baffling to me that India is putting so much money into being part of the next space race, when they still have such vast and prominent problems on the ground.

Vague, dismissive and low effort. Predictably it did not lead to a good discussion.

> Are you a shrink now?

No, and I don't need to be. It's obvious. As is the way you are distorting everything else in your reply here.

Besides, the irony and hypocrisy of you saying things like

> I just think your worldview is informed by a hyperbolic narrative than actual facts.

When you asked if I was a shrink for simply observing how (very obviously) your comments were coming from an emotional rather than a rational place.

It's clear you are not engaging in good faith but just being defensive, and I have no time for such one-sided discussions. In fact, all of your replies seem downright petty, like you're throwing rocks at me because you don't like what I said, rather than you're interested in having a civil debate.

I'm sure you'll reply again, however I have no interest in replying further, because it clearly isn't a good faith discussion interested in objective facts and truths - anything critical of India is just going to be dismissed, denied or whataboutismed - that's if my reply isn't just mass flagged out of spite to start with.

Best of luck to you.

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