It is going to take time to return back to the same levels as before.
Oddly enough, profitability of Swedish banks has been increasing for the last 14 years: https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/SWE/sweden/net-migrati....
Maybe you can come up with an argument actually grounded in reality, rather than the same old BS "oh it's the poor".
https://www.scb.se/en/finding-statistics/statistics-by-subje...
You could look at countries with higher rates of immigration (say my own country New Zealand at 30% immigrants, compared against Sweden with 20%, although NZ immigrants are often middle-class from culturally compatible English countries). Switzerland has 30% immigrants. https://wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_depe...
You can sometimes find good articles with facts that help define the point you are trying to make.
At the start of wars (or rather, the start of instability in a region) this actually occurs. The people who leave first is those with economical means to leave early, and those with higher education is generally those that tend to have an easier time to relocate successfully.
A other way to see this in economic terms is to look at the cities which took in a lot of immigrants. The first "wave" of immigrants did not increase the social costs that society had. It was only in the later waves that local budgets started to become strained from immigration and where the average tax revenue increase from immigration became significant less than the average increased costs per additional immigrant. An economic paper around 2017 tried and sadly failed to explain this in Swedish news, as it basically got labeled as being both anti and pro immigration.
People in Sweden however don't generally think of those people as immigrants, and their social economic status is average or maybe even a bit higher than average. Sweden also has about equal amount of swedes doing the same so the end result on the haves and the have-nots is basically static for that form of immigration.
Naturally, when people discuss immigration and immigration politics, immigration and emigration between Scandinavian countries are not part of the discussion and are generally exempted through specific treaties between the countries.
Also due to the number of applicants, I believe there is definitely a filter for the more capable immigrants. They might be poor, but they work hard and usually show us locals up (at least that is what I have seen). Many immigrants might not integrate well, but their kids are usually totally kiwi New Zealanders.
The same thing occurs for tradies going from NZ to the UK: it tends to be the focused hard working and highly skilled that emigrate from New Zealand.
Growing divide is universal and pending some tectonic changes in the way our society operates there is no coming back.
AI and/or climate change.
It may fuck up the planet but at least I'm going to enjoy the housed suffering too.
I'm not in Sweden but why are we always pointing the finger at the poor immigrants? Do you think there are no native Swedes being fucked by this real estate market?
Granted, having an open borders migration policy is not a good idea when you have a housing shortage. If you're struggling to provide for the locals, then the newcomers will have it even worse and won't like it, leading to more inequality, social divide, unrest and increased crime.
But blaming immigrants is always a cheap shot politicians take to blame the demographic without voting rights for the problems they themselves are responsible for. "It's not us who screwed you over with inflation and housing while taking your taxes, it's the immigrants who took your job and house".
Immigration is an entirely separate issue. Conflating it with the fact that hard working Swedes can’t secure good housing only serves to make those Swedes, who are already pissed off, more pissed off. It’s bringing the masses closer to taking to the streets with calls for Madame La Guillotine.
Housing needs to be fixed asap in Sweden. (And in most of the western world if we’re being honest.)
How do you figure the two are unrelated? The native poor are competing with an influx of poor immigrants for the same pool of housing. I find it hard to understand how those same poor natives would be worse off in terms of housing prospects if the immigrants never showed up, all things being equal. Immigration is never 100% of the reason behind housing issues, but it’s more significant than most people want to admit.
Considering how the Swedish government tried to hide the crime wave that correlated with it's open doors immigration policy [0] [1] [2], I wouldn't be surprised if they were fully aware of the impact but were trying to withhold that information as well.
[0] https://twitter.com/KirkegaardEmil/status/117684901756682649...
[1] https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2021/11/sweden-finally-publishe...
It's not about pointing fingers but rather that people with one foreign born parent have increased from roughly 16% to over 40% in the working age population during the last 30 years. When you become half of the population, you'll have a major impact on all statistics. People outside of Sweden most likely aren't aware and might draw rushed conclusion if they don't know why different stats are currently changing rapidly in all areas.
That depends, newcomers will take up job which the local dont want to do. They will accept poor living conditions which locals wont do.