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I've fully moved past jetbrains. The program is slower than every other IDE I use. Any time you reboot or change environments there it takes like 3-10 minutes with my tower. I know that seems like a niche reason, but when no other IDE has this issue, and they have similar/better plugins; why bother?

Since the VIM addon of Spyder, I've been hooked. I personally like the data visualizations the best. They are fast and have lots of features. Seems like spyder is underrated in the python world, although VSCode is ofc incredibly dynamic.

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I don't think any other IDE has "better" functionality. A Jetbrains IDE packs a ton of features (I have tried several alternatives but none come close). The only language where VSCode even seriously competes is Typescript (Rider is much better at C#). I used them originally on 4GB laptop and now on 16GB macbook, and I never found it to be too slow. (the indexing part can be slow, but they mitigated it somewhat by allowing you to download pre built indexes).

I have never spent 5 minutes on any index operation in almost any Jetbrains IDE. You might want to check your VMOptions and see if there is anything in there causing it to be extra slow.

If the OS is Windows, I'd suggest anyone struggling with lag make absolutely certain that the project and scratch folders are excluded from Defender real-time scanning. It makes a huge difference.

I've got two IntelliJ projects and two Pycharm projects open right now (all of them are of significant complexity), on a 7 year old Macbook Pro with 16 GB of RAM, and they're running fine. There's a small UI lag at times, but nothing that would remotely cause me grief.

But I don't use many plugins, maybe that's the difference.

I used JB software for years and was a big avocate (I am an amateur dev).

Then I started to mix Python, Go, TypeScript, Vue, ... and had to be juggle between editors. Some features were common, some other not.

I forced myself to fully switch to vscode for a week and after initial struggles this is, for me, by far a better ide.

It misses things but heads a mich better configuration. All languages are consistent and can live together.

I am not coming back.

Unfortunately this is very true. My machine has 64 gb of ram 3600, and a AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor. Even inside openbox jetbrains apps run extremely slow. Tried on windows, tried on mac, i endup in the same place. Sadly I will have to give in to using vs code.

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