Hacker News Reader

Comment by ztracf | Hacker News Reader

Everyone who opposes Silicon Valley is a fascist? Meloni hasn't really done much and appeases the EU on most issues. Berlusconi was already called a fascist 20 years ago.

If Italy has a problem, it is too much bureaucracy, not fascism.

View on HN

It's authoritarian to prevent their citizens from using a tool that makes them more productive and gives them a way to explore a new technology. Imagine if Italy banned Google searches in 2002. Actually, China did that and we rightfully called them authoritarian then, just like we should call Italy authoritarian now.

…right, all of the world should give away their secrets for training purposes to make OpenAI more money ?

Give me a break…

If someone wants to "give away their secrets", it is authoritarian to tell them they can't.

but it goes both ways, I should also have access to technology without having to give away my secrets :)

Nope, it's enforcing an EU directive. Read up GDPR.

Italy is actually trying to protect its citizens.

If I were an Italian citizen I wouldn't feel very protected if I were blocked from accessing software I wanted to use.

Nothing is more freeing than having Nanny making all your decisions for you.

China claims its firewall is about protecting its citizens too. How is it different?

How is it the same? Is it because both sentences contain the word "claim" in them, do you disagree about the Garante acting to enforce an EU directive, or what?

I mean that China justifies their firewall by saying it's for the protection of their citizens, which is the same justification given here for Italy wanting to block ChatGPT. If you're saying that Italy is truthful about their reasoning but China isn't, what sort of process is being used to determine that?

> If you're saying that Italy is truthful about their reasoning but China isn't, what sort of process is being used to determine that?

I don't know. What sort of reasoning lead to your initial claim?

Italy is definitely succeeding at protecting its citizens from entering the 21st century.

Let’s be real here. Italy is a dinosaur and scared shitless of change. ChatGPT, lab grown meat, immigration, the list will only get longer.

Not that the US has a positive record on immigration. There's no wall in Sicily, at least.

Keep on gifting your data to the megacorps, I am sure they care about you.

>Not that the US has a positive record on immigration. There's no wall in Sicily, at least.

You’re kidding, right? You have a massive sea acting as a wall against the undesirables. The US has more legal immigrants than any other country in the world.

No one thinks megacorps care about them, it’s just a business transaction. If I didn’t find what I’m getting in return valuable, I wouldn’t participate. This is how it works outside of nanny states.

Enjoy your state not protecting you,then. You don't even have the right to health,after all.

Same as you don’t have the right to food, right? You must all be dying in the streets from starvation.

Reply on news.ycombinator.com